Hello,
some comments about all provided options so far:
- google code tracker -- haven't use it at all, going to look a bit at it
- github - maybe I missed some setting, but the issue tracker there seems to be to simplistic - no way to categorize in bugs or feature requests
- jira - folks at SER used it in the past when we were two projects, reporting that it was rather buggy to keep using it -- maybe it was just the version purchased at that time (several years ago). I am not familiar with its administration at all
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is the administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough? Does it support multi-projects on the same instance?
- redmine - it is the one I use for various needs, therefore I have some experience with its administration. However, I cannot say that it is a thing I would like to take care of. It seems to be a bit heavy, I had to patch it (for some quite basic features such as different email address for different projects or the body of notification emails -- I have to say I am not that familiar with it and I may have missed some plugins/settings)
For self installed app, at this time my preferences would be redmine, mantis, jira -- a big + to rise the rank in the order would come if there is going to be someone to commit for the maintenance of either one. Haven't made my mind for hosted options yet.
More comments? Any other options?
Thanks, Daniel
On 7/19/11 8:18 PM, Jason Penton wrote:
+1 for Jira. If you have the resources to setup and manage JIRA then I would suggest this too. We use and it is really very good
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
We have been extremely happy with Mantis as a self-hosted approach. It is easy to use, yet has the sophistication and flexibility for a needed to manage a project of non-trivial size. On the other hand, Digium recently moved away from it in favour of JIRA for issues.asterisk.org <http://issues.asterisk.org>. For fairly large projects like this one[1], I have always favoured internal hosting of such systems in order to maintain maximum control, use optional plugins, make customisations, etc. I think that would make the most sense for the SR/Kamailio community. -- Alex [1] It's not nearly as large as say, the Linux kernel, but it's bigger than 99% of open-source which, after all, consists largely of projects done by one person or a few people at most.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 22:07, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
some comments about all provided options so far:
google code tracker -- haven't use it at all, going to look a bit at it
github - maybe I missed some setting, but the issue tracker there seems to
be to simplistic - no way to categorize in bugs or feature requests
- jira - folks at SER used it in the past when we were two projects,
reporting that it was rather buggy to keep using it -- maybe it was just the version purchased at that time (several years ago). I am not familiar with its administration at all
We were using it several years ago and although I personally liked it, the software (closed source java application) suffered from memory leaks and needed to be restarted quite often. That may or may not be true with recent versions, but you wouldn't know unless you set it up and keep using it for a while.
Note that to be able to use it, we would need to: - Apply for the open-source license from Atlassian - Get a server to run it on (Jira can be a memory hog)
-Jan
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is the
administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough? Does it support multi-projects on the same instance?
- redmine - it is the one I use for various needs, therefore I have some
experience with its administration. However, I cannot say that it is a thing I would like to take care of. It seems to be a bit heavy, I had to patch it (for some quite basic features such as different email address for different projects or the body of notification emails -- I have to say I am not that familiar with it and I may have missed some plugins/settings)
Another option, simpler than redmine, would be trac: http://trac.edgewall.org/
It's simpler than most other applications (which imho is a plus), but it does not support multiple projects on a single instance (may not be a problem since you can have multiple instances).
-Jan
For self installed app, at this time my preferences would be redmine, mantis, jira -- a big + to rise the rank in the order would come if there is going to be someone to commit for the maintenance of either one. Haven't made my mind for hosted options yet.
More comments? Any other options?
Thanks, Daniel
On 7/19/11 8:18 PM, Jason Penton wrote:
+1 for Jira. If you have the resources to setup and manage JIRA then I would suggest this too. We use and it is really very good
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Alex Balashov abalashov@evaristesys.com wrote:
We have been extremely happy with Mantis as a self-hosted approach. It is easy to use, yet has the sophistication and flexibility for a needed to manage a project of non-trivial size.
On the other hand, Digium recently moved away from it in favour of JIRA for issues.asterisk.org.
For fairly large projects like this one[1], I have always favoured internal hosting of such systems in order to maintain maximum control, use optional plugins, make customisations, etc. I think that would make the most sense for the SR/Kamailio community.
-- Alex
[1] It's not nearly as large as say, the Linux kernel, but it's bigger than 99% of open-source which, after all, consists largely of projects done by one person or a few people at most.
-- Daniel-Constantin Mierla -- http://www.asipto.com Kamailio Advanced Training, Oct 10-13, Berlin: http://asipto.com/u/kat http://linkedin.com/in/miconda -- http://twitter.com/miconda
SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
On 7/20/11 12:45 AM, Jan Janak wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 22:07, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
some comments about all provided options so far:
google code tracker -- haven't use it at all, going to look a bit at it
github - maybe I missed some setting, but the issue tracker there seems to
be to simplistic - no way to categorize in bugs or feature requests
- jira - folks at SER used it in the past when we were two projects,
reporting that it was rather buggy to keep using it -- maybe it was just the version purchased at that time (several years ago). I am not familiar with its administration at all
We were using it several years ago and although I personally liked it, the software (closed source java application) suffered from memory leaks and needed to be restarted quite often. That may or may not be true with recent versions, but you wouldn't know unless you set it up and keep using it for a while.
Note that to be able to use it, we would need to:
- Apply for the open-source license from Atlassian
- Get a server to run it on (Jira can be a memory hog)
-Jan
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is the
administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough? Does it support multi-projects on the same instance?
- redmine - it is the one I use for various needs, therefore I have some
experience with its administration. However, I cannot say that it is a thing I would like to take care of. It seems to be a bit heavy, I had to patch it (for some quite basic features such as different email address for different projects or the body of notification emails -- I have to say I am not that familiar with it and I may have missed some plugins/settings)
Another option, simpler than redmine, would be trac: http://trac.edgewall.org/
It's simpler than most other applications (which imho is a plus), but it does not support multiple projects on a single instance (may not be a problem since you can have multiple instances).
trac was really giving me headaches in the past. I tried once and never looked back to it. Maybe just some bad experience, but no plan here to touch it again, I rather look at alternatives.
Cheers, Daniel
-Jan
For self installed app, at this time my preferences would be redmine, mantis, jira -- a big + to rise the rank in the order would come if there is going to be someone to commit for the maintenance of either one. Haven't made my mind for hosted options yet.
More comments? Any other options?
Thanks, Daniel
On 7/19/11 8:18 PM, Jason Penton wrote:
+1 for Jira. If you have the resources to setup and manage JIRA then I would suggest this too. We use and it is really very good
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Alex Balashovabalashov@evaristesys.com wrote:
We have been extremely happy with Mantis as a self-hosted approach. It is easy to use, yet has the sophistication and flexibility for a needed to manage a project of non-trivial size.
On the other hand, Digium recently moved away from it in favour of JIRA for issues.asterisk.org.
For fairly large projects like this one[1], I have always favoured internal hosting of such systems in order to maintain maximum control, use optional plugins, make customisations, etc. I think that would make the most sense for the SR/Kamailio community.
-- Alex
[1] It's not nearly as large as say, the Linux kernel, but it's bigger than 99% of open-source which, after all, consists largely of projects done by one person or a few people at most.
-- Daniel-Constantin Mierla -- http://www.asipto.com Kamailio Advanced Training, Oct 10-13, Berlin: http://asipto.com/u/kat http://linkedin.com/in/miconda -- http://twitter.com/miconda
SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Hi,
We are also using the Mantis and as Alex said is very flexible and easy to use.
2011/7/19 Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is the
administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough? Does it support multi-projects on the same instance?
We had no troubles upgrading it, it was quite straightforward IIRC. It does support as many projects as you want and you can add subprojects to them. Also, another feature I like is that you can easily link a commit with the bug id so that info appears automatically in the bug report.
Best regards,
Santi
On 07/19/2011 04:07 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is
the administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough?
Yes, quite so. It is written in PHP and supports MySQL and PostgreSQL, and has generally come with good incremental upgrade scripts.
Does it support multi-projects on the same instance?
Absolutely. In addition to that, it supports:
- Custom fields at the project or bug entry level. - Flexible, exportable reporting. - Multiple levels of user access and privilege (custom configurable if necessary, but default built-ins work well) so as to limit authority to view, submit, and resolve or delete bugs. Configurable per project if needed. - Easy release notes generation. - Configurable e-mail notification of users for virtually all events. - Linkage of bug entries to each other causally (e.g. depends on, child of, related to, etc.) - SVN and Git integration via plugins. - Colour-coding for easy visual classification of severity of bugs, or subject matter affiliation, etc.
It's a clean, straightforward and functional interface for technical people that neither tries to be overly polished, nor bizarre and recondite.
Here is a screenshot of the main view:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Mantis_screen_shot.jpg
Basic bug submission screen:
http://oceanustech.net/images/xplanner_06.png
Typical reporting search screen:
http://thnetos.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/mantis.png
-- Alex
On 07/20/2011 05:37 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
On 07/19/2011 04:07 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is
the administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough?
Also, I've never heard of Mantis described as difficult to administer, or a resource hog requiring a dedicated server or anything like that. It's got a very small footprint but still powerful functionality.
And it doesn't suffer from decay or neglect; it is an established and well-maintained project.
On 7/20/11 11:44 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
On 07/20/2011 05:37 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
On 07/19/2011 04:07 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is
the administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough?
Also, I've never heard of Mantis described as difficult to administer, or a resource hog requiring a dedicated server or anything like that. It's got a very small footprint but still powerful functionality.
And it doesn't suffer from decay or neglect; it is an established and well-maintained project.
Do you know if asterisk guys provided any reason for moving from mantis?
Thanks, Daniel
On 07/20/2011 05:55 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
Do you know if asterisk guys provided any reason for moving from mantis?
Aside from the fact that it integrates with other Atlassian software that Digium heavily uses, such as Confluence, they did not provide any public justifications that I know of.
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2011-May/049088.html
-- Alex
2011/7/20 Alex Balashov abalashov@evaristesys.com:
On 07/19/2011 04:07 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
- mantis - I have no experience with it to say pro/con opinions. Is
the administration (upgrade, patching) easy enough?
Yes, quite so. It is written in PHP and supports MySQL and PostgreSQL, and has generally come with good incremental upgrade scripts.
Does it support multi-projects on the same instance?
Absolutely. In addition to that, it supports:
- Custom fields at the project or bug entry level.
- Flexible, exportable reporting.
- Multiple levels of user access and privilege (custom configurable if
necessary, but default built-ins work well) so as to limit authority to view, submit, and resolve or delete bugs. Configurable per project if needed.
- Easy release notes generation.
- Configurable e-mail notification of users for virtually all events.
- Linkage of bug entries to each other causally (e.g. depends on, child of,
related to, etc.)
- SVN and Git integration via plugins.
- Colour-coding for easy visual classification of severity of bugs, or
subject matter affiliation, etc.
Redmine has all of this stuff (with no plugins, all included) and many more features. I use Redmine in my personal projects and also in my work in which we use a Redmine for managing *several* projects.
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