Friends,
A few days ago I got complains in the IRC channel that kamailio was a dead project because there was never anyone in the channel to support it. It might be helpful for the project if more of us try to connect to the #kamailio and #sip-router channels more frequently.
It's quite empty.
From the Sip-Router marketing dept. /O
Hey,
On 15.09.2011 09:20, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
A few days ago I got complains in the IRC channel that kamailio was a dead project because there was never anyone in the channel to support it. It might be helpful for the project if more of us try to connect to the #kamailio and #sip-router channels more frequently.
Speaking of ways to improve IRC, the following ideas come to my mind:
- Shut down #Kamailio and let it point at #sip-router instead. I see no real benefit in maintaining two distinct channels. - Extend the channel topic to show the (shortened?) URL to the mailing lists. It's the primary approach to support Kamailio and will keep to be.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
--Timo
Hello,
On 9/15/11 9:54 AM, Timo Reimann wrote:
Hey,
On 15.09.2011 09:20, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
A few days ago I got complains in the IRC channel that kamailio was a dead project because there was never anyone in the channel to support it.
ahh, irc ... but we use twitter, facebook, g+ these days :-). Actually I like irc and used to be there, but lately it was quite impossible time-wise to be online for long time and join the channels. Maybe other people can stay there and if they cannot answer, then they will suggest or even bring themselves the topic on mailing lists. The mailing lists stays the main and most convenient support channel for community from my point of view at this moment.
It might be helpful for the project if more of us try to connect to the #kamailio and #sip-router channels more frequently.
Speaking of ways to improve IRC, the following ideas come to my mind:
- Shut down #Kamailio and let it point at #sip-router instead. I see no
real benefit in maintaining two distinct channels.
Does IRC support this kind of channel name aliasing, e.g., #kamailio and #sip-router to end up in the same channel? I think I looked for such option, but didn't find it.
- Extend the channel topic to show the (shortened?) URL to the mailing
lists. It's the primary approach to support Kamailio and will keep to be.
This can be done and hopefully will help.
Cheers, Daniel
Hey Daniel,
On 15.09.2011 11:21, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
It might be helpful for the project if more of us try to connect to the #kamailio and #sip-router channels more frequently.
Speaking of ways to improve IRC, the following ideas come to my mind:
- Shut down #Kamailio and let it point at #sip-router instead. I see no
real benefit in maintaining two distinct channels.
Does IRC support this kind of channel name aliasing, e.g., #kamailio and #sip-router to end up in the same channel? I think I looked for such option, but didn't find it.
I was just assuming that it worked somehow because I often find myself being forwarded. By virtue of Google, I found this blog post which claims that it is in fact feasible:
http://www.geekshed.net/2010/03/can-i-link-two-channels/
Money quote:
"Linking two channels together is very easy, as it only involves setting two channel modes – the first sets a limit of X people that can be in the channel, and the second sets the channel to send people to after X people have joined the main channel.
[...]
So if I wanted to forward my channel #Inara to #Adria, I would do the following: /mode #Inara +lL 1 #Adria. If I wanted to always have the channel set like that, so that nobody could change it, I would use chanserv’s mlock option, and do: /msg chanserv set #Inara mlock +lL 1 #Adria."
HTH,
--Timo
Hello,
On 9/15/11 11:30 AM, Timo Reimann wrote:
Hey Daniel,
On 15.09.2011 11:21, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
It might be helpful for the project if more of us try to connect to the #kamailio and #sip-router channels more frequently.
Speaking of ways to improve IRC, the following ideas come to my mind:
- Shut down #Kamailio and let it point at #sip-router instead. I see no
real benefit in maintaining two distinct channels.
Does IRC support this kind of channel name aliasing, e.g., #kamailio and #sip-router to end up in the same channel? I think I looked for such option, but didn't find it.
I was just assuming that it worked somehow because I often find myself being forwarded. By virtue of Google, I found this blog post which claims that it is in fact feasible:
http://www.geekshed.net/2010/03/can-i-link-two-channels/
Money quote:
"Linking two channels together is very easy, as it only involves setting two channel modes – the first sets a limit of X people that can be in the channel, and the second sets the channel to send people to after X people have joined the main channel.
[...]
So if I wanted to forward my channel #Inara to #Adria, I would do the following: /mode #Inara +lL 1 #Adria. If I wanted to always have the channel set like that, so that nobody could change it, I would use chanserv’s mlock option, and do: /msg chanserv set #Inara mlock +lL 1 #Adria."
I tried but the first command seems without effect and for the second I am replied that I am not allowed to do it. Tried few more options found on google, but no luck either. Anyhow, not an irc guy here, anyone willing to become op and try merging the channels?
Cheers, Daniel
16 sep 2011 kl. 15:33 skrev Klaus Darilion:
On 15.09.2011 11:21, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
The mailing lists stays the main and most convenient support channel for community from my point of view at this moment.
+1
If no one is online in IRC, remove IRC from support alternatives.
Not to be pushy, but "other" projects has very active support on IRC so it might make sense to at least be there now and then. I don't disagree with removing it from the web page or add a disclaimer "If you don't find anyone in the IRC channel that answers your question, make sure to send e-mail to the -users mailing list with your question, and you'll get an answer quickly, when the people that has the answers are able to respond to your query".
Or something similar.
Marketing dept (self-assigned) /O
On 09/16/2011 04:40 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
16 sep 2011 kl. 15:33 skrev Klaus Darilion:
Not to be pushy, but "other" projects has very active support on IRC so it might make sense to at least be there now and then. I don't disagree with removing it from the web page or add a disclaimer "If you don't find anyone in the IRC channel that answers your question, make sure to send e-mail to the -users mailing list with your question, and you'll get an answer quickly, when the people that has the answers are able to respond to your query".
Hi all,
I was yesterday on the official GNU IRC channel . Even if there were quite a bunch of people there, there was no talk on the channel itself. I've asked a question and got nothing... half our later somebody asked another question .... still nothing (ok maybe they were on the USA TZ or something but still... it's GNU).
IMHO interest for IRC has gone to a new low lately (like the last decade). Maybe we can put a chanbot that will redirect users to the mailing list or website (or periodically list info about the project, FAQs etc.)
Marius
Or something similar.
Marketing dept (self-assigned) /O _______________________________________________ sr-dev mailing list sr-dev@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-dev
16 sep 2011 kl. 15:46 skrev marius zbihlei:
On 09/16/2011 04:40 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
16 sep 2011 kl. 15:33 skrev Klaus Darilion:
Not to be pushy, but "other" projects has very active support on IRC so it might make sense to at least be there now and then. I don't disagree with removing it from the web page or add a disclaimer "If you don't find anyone in the IRC channel that answers your question, make sure to send e-mail to the -users mailing list with your question, and you'll get an answer quickly, when the people that has the answers are able to respond to your query".
Hi all,
I was yesterday on the official GNU IRC channel . Even if there were quite a bunch of people there, there was no talk on the channel itself. I've asked a question and got nothing... half our later somebody asked another question .... still nothing (ok maybe they were on the USA TZ or something but still... it's GNU).
IMHO interest for IRC has gone to a new low lately (like the last decade). Maybe we can put a chanbot that will redirect users to the mailing list or website (or periodically list info about the project, FAQs etc.)
There is huge activity in all Asterisk-related channels and some other projects as well. I guess it depends on the project and the user base.
Agree that it seems old-fashioned. Jabber chat rooms feels more modern. In this group, we should have a kamailio conf room to stress Daniel's code.
/O
16 sep 2011 kl. 15:40 skrev Olle E. Johansson:
16 sep 2011 kl. 15:33 skrev Klaus Darilion:
On 15.09.2011 11:21, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
The mailing lists stays the main and most convenient support channel for community from my point of view at this moment.
+1
If no one is online in IRC, remove IRC from support alternatives.
Not to be pushy, but "other" projects has very active support on IRC so it might make sense to at least be there now and then. I don't disagree with removing it from the web page or add a disclaimer "If you don't find anyone in the IRC channel that answers your question, make sure to send e-mail to the -users mailing list with your question, and you'll get an answer quickly, when the people that has the answers are able to respond to your query".
Or something similar.
To be very pushy this time: Who has management access to the #sip-router and #kamailio channels ? We really need to change the topic, like yesterday.
/O ;-)
On Monday 19 September 2011, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
To be very pushy this time: Who has management access to the #sip-router and #kamailio channels ? We really need to change the topic, like yesterday.
Hi Olle,
the last change in #kamailio was done from Daniel according to the server status. For sip-router maybe he's as well access.
Best regards,
Henning
19 sep 2011 kl. 16:37 skrev Henning Westerholt:
On Monday 19 September 2011, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
To be very pushy this time: Who has management access to the #sip-router and #kamailio channels ? We really need to change the topic, like yesterday.
Hi Olle,
the last change in #kamailio was done from Daniel according to the server status. For sip-router maybe he's as well access.
Ok, thanks.
...going on a miconda-hunt... /O
Hello,
On 9/19/11 4:53 PM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
19 sep 2011 kl. 16:37 skrev Henning Westerholt:
On Monday 19 September 2011, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
To be very pushy this time: Who has management access to the #sip-router and #kamailio channels ? We really need to change the topic, like yesterday.
Hi Olle,
the last change in #kamailio was done from Daniel according to the server status. For sip-router maybe he's as well access.
Ok, thanks.
...going on a miconda-hunt...
... I need few more of them as well, let me know if you find some :-)
OK, so at least I am OP for all these channels (#sip-router, #kamailio and #openser), not sure if I am owner. I changed the topics, then I tried to merge with the hints provided previously, but failed to get good results here.
If any of the good friends of our projects wants OP capabilities and spend time to forward the other channels to #sip-router, improve interaction with bots, a.s.o. to make irc activity more useful, drop me an email with the irc id. Also will be appreciated if you can send the irc commands that grant you the privileges you need.
Cheers, Daniel
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