Daniel once taught me in a mailing list post how to use AVP arrays syntactically - i.e. to iterate through them and to implicitly create them - for which I am very grateful. For example: $var(i) = 0; while($var(i) < $dbr(ra=>rows)) { $(avp(s:rows_of_things)[$var(i)]) = $dbr(ra=>[$var(i),0]); } But I don't see anywhere in the documentation - for the avpops module or otherwise - where someone else can learn to use them. They are not mentioned explicitly anywhere as having potentially nonscalar properties. I think it is a good idea to fix that. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671