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Re: Rv: Re: Rv: Re: [Serusers] accounting accuracy
by Iqbal 23 Jul '05

23 Jul '05

You can, but from what I have heard (when I looked at it a few months ago) it was pretty useless, so I would avoid it. If you have alot of BYE, then that is where the difference is, all those INVITES without a BYE you are not accounting for, but the gateway provider always gets a BYE. Now you need to work out why you are not getting the BYE, either the gateway is not sending them to you, which I find strange, or if they are sending you are not recording...which again is strange because you would either record none, OR all. Maybe the calle is not hanging up the call for whatever reason, if that is the case no BYE will get sent, but what your gateway provider should do is to send you a BYE if their is a period of inactivity, if they dont , u might need to find other clever solutions, by using session-timers, to ask for re-invites from the user, and if you dont get them, insert a BYE yourself. Iqbal PS I have cc'd this to the list, just in case others have similar problems, Nhadie wrote: >I see some INVITES that doesn't have a BYE. sip_status are 200 don't know if >that's a cmplete call are not, but there's really alot. > >by the way it's in the favor of the provider, tough luck for me. > >can I just simply implement an open source billing system? like trabas >www.trabas.com. > >--------- Mensagem Original -------- >From: Iqbal <iqbal(a)gigo.co.uk> >To: Nhadie <nhadie(a)cbcpworld.com> >Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >Subject: Re: Rv: Re: [Serusers] accounting accuracy >Date: 23/07/05 10:35 > > > >>The fields seem to be correct at a first glance, as long as you are >>matching INVITE and BYE, it should be okay. I presume your not allowing >>users to do anything like call forwarding, if you are the accounting >>fields for that are slightly different. >> >>10% diff per month is alot, is it in the favour of the gateway...if its >>in your favour...dont tell anyone :-) >> >>Is the number of calls to a particular country add up, i.e ser shows 10 >>calls to India, does the gateway also, is there a particular country >>destination which is showing the largest incorrect minutes. >> >>When you hang up a call, have u checked to see how quickly the BYE hits >>your acc table, and what the time stamp on it is, especially if the >>callee hangs up, i.e the BYE comes from the gateway. >>Do you have any unmatched calls, i.e INVITES without a BYE, if so how >> >> >many. > > >>Any problems with power failures i.e endpoints not being able to send a >> >> >BYE. > > >>Iqbal >> >>PS I haven't been knighted as yet, hence you dont need to call me >>Sir...but I am petitioning the Queen as soon as I get a chance :-) >> >>Nhadie wrote: >> >>>We are averaging 17000 minutes a month. The gateway provider will give >> >> >us a > > >>>weekly report that has number of minutes per country, it's not >> >> >detailed per > > >>>call. >>> >>>actually sir i'm more worried if it's a problem on my billing system, >> >> >am I > > >>>using the right fields to extract the data? >>> >>>--------- Mensagem Original -------- >>>From: Iqbal <iqbal(a)gigo.co.uk> >>>To: Nhadie <nhadie(a)cbcpworld.com> >>>Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>Subject: Re: [Serusers] accounting accuracy >>>Date: 23/07/05 10:13 >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi >>>> >>>>Are you/is your provider rounding up/down the number of minutes, >> >> >or do > > >>>>you get raw CDR from them. >>>> >>>>1000 mins different out of how many total ?, and does the gateway >> >> >show > > >>>>more than SER or less each time. >>>> >>>>Have you looked at one call, try making a test call, time it on >> >> >your > > >>>>stop watch for 60 secs, and see what ser shows and what the >> >> >gateway shows. > > >>>> >>>>I have run for sometime, and I havent really seen much discrepancy >> >> >in > > >>>>the cdrs from upstream gateways...this is not to say it cannot >> >> >happen. > > >>>> >>>>iqbal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Nhadie wrote: >>>> >>>>&gt;Hi list, >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt;I'm having problem with my accounting, I have a SIP server >> >> >and I'm > > >>>> >>>> >>>using a >>> >>> >>>>&gt;commercial gateway provider where I can terminate calls. >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt;Unfortunately, there's a big discrepancy on the number of >> >> >minutes I > > >>>> >>>> >>>see on >>> >>> >>>>&gt;my billing system, compared to the billing of the gateway >> >> >provider. > > >>>> >>>> >>>Every >>> >>> >>>>&gt;month there's always almost a thousand or more minutes >> >> >diiference. > > >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt;For my billing system, i used the following fields to get >> >> >the start of > > >>>> >>>> >>>call, >>> >>> >>>>&gt;sip_method=INVITE sip_status=200 and username='username of >> >> >caller', > > >>>> >>>> >>>then to >>> >>> >>>>&gt;get the end of call, sip_method sip_callid totag and >> >> >fromtag. are > > >>>> >>>> >>>these >>> >>> >>>>&gt;correct? >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt;Am I doing something wrong there? Also someone told me I >> >> >need a B2BUA > > >>>> >>>> >>>for >>> >>> >>>>&gt;the calls to be accurate, is this true?Hope anyone can >> >> >help me. TIA > > >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt;Regards >>>>&gt;Nhadie >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt;_______________________________________________ >>>>&gt;Serusers mailing list >>>>&gt;serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>>&gt;http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt;. >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt; >>>>&gt; >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >. > > >

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[Users] Questions about openser
by Michael Ulitskiy 23 Jul '05

23 Jul '05

Hello, I've asked this question in serusers and serdevel. Noone answered, so I thought I'd ask it here about openser. I haven't tried openser yet, it's on my todo list. I saw that openser implemented connection pool for mysql backend. What about postgres? My guess is that every module using databse opens a separate connection and the number of concurrent connections will be the number of such modules multiplied by number of children? Is it true? If so, are there any plans for connection pool for postgres? Also it's been noticed and confirmed by Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul that there are problems linking ser to multi-threaded libraries like libpq. Has it been addressed by openser? Also I'm curious whether number of children in openser is limited to a given startup value or it is able to fork additional children as needed? Thank you, Michael

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Re: Rv: Re: [Serusers] accounting accuracy
by Iqbal 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

The fields seem to be correct at a first glance, as long as you are matching INVITE and BYE, it should be okay. I presume your not allowing users to do anything like call forwarding, if you are the accounting fields for that are slightly different. 10% diff per month is alot, is it in the favour of the gateway...if its in your favour...dont tell anyone :-) Is the number of calls to a particular country add up, i.e ser shows 10 calls to India, does the gateway also, is there a particular country destination which is showing the largest incorrect minutes. When you hang up a call, have u checked to see how quickly the BYE hits your acc table, and what the time stamp on it is, especially if the callee hangs up, i.e the BYE comes from the gateway. Do you have any unmatched calls, i.e INVITES without a BYE, if so how many. Any problems with power failures i.e endpoints not being able to send a BYE. Iqbal PS I haven't been knighted as yet, hence you dont need to call me Sir...but I am petitioning the Queen as soon as I get a chance :-) Nhadie wrote: >We are averaging 17000 minutes a month. The gateway provider will give us a >weekly report that has number of minutes per country, it's not detailed per >call. > >actually sir i'm more worried if it's a problem on my billing system, am I >using the right fields to extract the data? > >--------- Mensagem Original -------- >From: Iqbal <iqbal(a)gigo.co.uk> >To: Nhadie <nhadie(a)cbcpworld.com> >Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >Subject: Re: [Serusers] accounting accuracy >Date: 23/07/05 10:13 > > > >>Hi >> >>Are you/is your provider rounding up/down the number of minutes, or do >>you get raw CDR from them. >> >>1000 mins different out of how many total ?, and does the gateway show >>more than SER or less each time. >> >>Have you looked at one call, try making a test call, time it on your >>stop watch for 60 secs, and see what ser shows and what the gateway shows. >> >>I have run for sometime, and I havent really seen much discrepancy in >>the cdrs from upstream gateways...this is not to say it cannot happen. >> >>iqbal >> >> >> >>Nhadie wrote: >> >>>Hi list, >>> >>>I'm having problem with my accounting, I have a SIP server and I'm >> >> >using a > > >>>commercial gateway provider where I can terminate calls. >>> >>>Unfortunately, there's a big discrepancy on the number of minutes I >> >> >see on > > >>>my billing system, compared to the billing of the gateway provider. >> >> >Every > > >>>month there's always almost a thousand or more minutes diiference. >>> >>>For my billing system, i used the following fields to get the start of >> >> >call, > > >>>sip_method=INVITE sip_status=200 and username='username of caller', >> >> >then to > > >>>get the end of call, sip_method sip_callid totag and fromtag. are >> >> >these > > >>>correct? >>> >>>Am I doing something wrong there? Also someone told me I need a B2BUA >> >> >for > > >>>the calls to be accurate, is this true?Hope anyone can help me. TIA >>> >>>Regards >>>Nhadie >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Serusers mailing list >>>serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >>> >>>. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >. > > >

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Rv: Re: [Serusers] accounting accuracy
by Nhadie 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

We are averaging 17000 minutes a month. The gateway provider will give us a weekly report that has number of minutes per country, it's not detailed per call. actually sir i'm more worried if it's a problem on my billing system, am I using the right fields to extract the data? --------- Mensagem Original -------- From: Iqbal <iqbal(a)gigo.co.uk> To: Nhadie <nhadie(a)cbcpworld.com> Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org Subject: Re: [Serusers] accounting accuracy Date: 23/07/05 10:13 > > Hi > > Are you/is your provider rounding up/down the number of minutes, or do > you get raw CDR from them. > > 1000 mins different out of how many total ?, and does the gateway show > more than SER or less each time. > > Have you looked at one call, try making a test call, time it on your > stop watch for 60 secs, and see what ser shows and what the gateway shows. > > I have run for sometime, and I havent really seen much discrepancy in > the cdrs from upstream gateways...this is not to say it cannot happen. > > iqbal > > > > Nhadie wrote: > > >Hi list, > > > >I'm having problem with my accounting, I have a SIP server and I'm using a > >commercial gateway provider where I can terminate calls. > > > >Unfortunately, there's a big discrepancy on the number of minutes I see on > >my billing system, compared to the billing of the gateway provider. Every > >month there's always almost a thousand or more minutes diiference. > > > >For my billing system, i used the following fields to get the start of call, > >sip_method=INVITE sip_status=200 and username='username of caller', then to > >get the end of call, sip_method sip_callid totag and fromtag. are these > >correct? > > > >Am I doing something wrong there? Also someone told me I need a B2BUA for > >the calls to be accurate, is this true?Hope anyone can help me. TIA > > > >Regards > >Nhadie > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Serusers mailing list > >serusers(a)lists.iptel.org > >http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > >

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[Serusers] accounting accuracy
by Nhadie 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hi list, I'm having problem with my accounting, I have a SIP server and I'm using a commercial gateway provider where I can terminate calls. Unfortunately, there's a big discrepancy on the number of minutes I see on my billing system, compared to the billing of the gateway provider. Every month there's always almost a thousand or more minutes diiference. For my billing system, i used the following fields to get the start of call, sip_method=INVITE sip_status=200 and username='username of caller', then to get the end of call, sip_method sip_callid totag and fromtag. are these correct? Am I doing something wrong there? Also someone told me I need a B2BUA for the calls to be accurate, is this true?Hope anyone can help me. TIA Regards Nhadie

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[Serusers] gateways and interconnects
by Iqbal 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

recent discussion about gateways got me thinking, surely there are enough people on this list, with gateways in most major countries, would it not be cost effective (havent number crunched here) if we could somehow interlink our ser proxies, to route traffic across to the nearest proxy. Again not fully sure of the benefits. eg ser is the US, who has US DID's etc, and I wanted them, I could realistically purchase from that local SER guy, as opposed to having to go through all the interconnect stuff, and finding a partner myself. Maybe a ser-business mailing list for this might be useful. Iqbal

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[Serusers] msilo, voicemail and serweb
by Alejandro Mellado 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hi I'm trying to activate the voicemail in serweb. I've working msilo with IM successfully. Somebody Can help me? Regards Saluda Atte. Alejandro Mellado <amellado(a)uct.cl>. Escuela de Informática Universidad Católica de Temuco

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[Users] mediaproxy 1.4.1 -> 1.4.2 with t.38 patch
by Ingo Wolfsberger 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hi This is the second time I apply the t.38 patch to a ned mediaproxy version. I have attached a new mediaproxy version, 1.4.2 with the t.38 patch from a.granig integrated. I hope that I do not need to apply it again to "newer" version. Kind regards, Ingo Wolfsberger -- GMX DSL = Maximale Leistung zum minimalen Preis! 2000 MB nur 2,99, Flatrate ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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[Serusers] Contact Address on ser
by jean-charles Fesantieu 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hi all I want to use a contact adress configure in serweb to map an public sip address on a private sip address on my local sip network : for exemple : local sip address is : sip:mobi2@"local domain name" public sip is address : sip:jcfesantieu@iptel.org i have configure the contact on serweb : serctl fifo ul_show_contact location mobi2 <sip:jcfesantieu@iptel.org>;q=1.00;expires=969 <sip:mobi2@172.21.30.3:5061>;q=0.00;expires=1415 mobi1 and mobi2 are REGISTER on my ser router . when i want to call mobi2 from mobi1 , it's works . But when i want to call jcfesantieu(a)iptel.org ; the " user not found " error message appear . I have made many tests in the file configuration ser.cfg but it's still don't work. What kind of configuration should i use in ser.cfg to use contact ?

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[Serusers] FindMeFollowMe in ser.cfg
by Ramin Nikaeen 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Valued Colleagues, I am trying to implement the FindMeFollowMe service for ser. Does anyone know of any sample ser.cfg that implements this service so that I can use as a starting point? I have implemented my own version but it has problems! Thanks ramin

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