Hello,

in my opinion this discussion got a bit too much off-topic in several messages, inducing inappropriate feeling about how this community behaves. Please everyone have in mind:

- every message here is sent to all subscribed people, it is not between the participants of the discussion
- noisy and polluting content make people leave the forums and prevent others joining if they read the archives
- a ranting discussion cannot have only one actor, if someone starts such a potential topic, just avoid replying
- the community is all equal, there are no first, second a.s.o. class categories, neither different worlds
- answer to the messages you can provide some valuable information, the time is precious for everyone
- new comers are very welcome in the community, many of them in the past turned later in people answering questions
- if a questions is not appropriate to the list, reply shortly saying that and providing clear references where it has to be done, for that matter, the business mailing list is: http://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/business The business directory web page was pointed in a previous message in this discussion (http://www.kamailio.org/w/business-directory/).
- unless a decision of all members in a defined group, speak only on personal name, not on behalf of the project, at a whole or components of it such as developers, the business community around it or what so ever generic thing related to it
- don't escalate the situation, a 2-3-hour discussion between few people is not overall relevant. We are around the world, some sleeping at the time you discuss or traveling. Wait at least for one working day for a proper chance to more people to get involved and clarify the delicate aspects

I'm not trying to pin-point anyone involved in the discussion, some messages were providing good information, and as I said, it is not one man game, but I hope that future such discussions will get only one reply on this list, redirecting to proper forums or web pages. All other remarks will have to be done privately, between interested people in the subject, as it was anyhow suggested in the first message.

After long days, even nights, there might be a lot of tension on the human side in every of us, SIP/Telecom is not an easy area, but for relaxation we can create a dedicated mailing list for ranting/off-topic/funny subjects. Users mailing list is mainly a knowledge base building forum.

Just to end, I expressed myself many times that the whole purpose of the project is to be useful, that pretty much translates in "business generator". I don't mind getting here occasionally messages that are touching business aspects, but they must not be pure advertising and they have to be still related to user community (a good example of such topic is kamailio-related job postings) - such messages should not be followed by public replies, but through direct contact. Of course, when such topics became frequent, we will create dedicated forum for them.

I hope this discussion thread ends here on this mailing list.

Cheers,
Daniel


On 6/20/12 9:28 PM, copycall wrote:
alex,

if it offended you, then i apologize for telling you to "get a pair".

well, i have received several offers to do what i am looking for, not all at my asking price, which you think is too low.

maybe some kamailio users don't consider themselves developers, but are still interested in trying something new.

i am willing to give someone an opportunity, including you.

dave



On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Fred Posner <fred@teamforrest.com> wrote:
On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:

> On 06/20/2012 02:38 PM, Fred Posner wrote:
>
>> I know a great bakery that can offer dessert kamailio pricing.
>> Generally, $6/portion starting.
>
> What's the going rate for the Millenium Falcon cake these days?  :-)
>

They start at $250 and increase by size. =)

Death Stars are much cheaper. =)

With best regards,

Fred
http://qxork.com


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