Hello,
On 4/1/13 9:57 PM, Marius Zbihlei wrote:
Hello,
Comments inline
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla
<miconda(a)gmail.com <mailto:miconda@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 4/1/13 9:13 PM, Marius Zbihlei wrote:
Some ideas about improving the security of
the site:
1. Drop http connections for authentication pages
Not sure how much it
will help, as the bots were able to create
accounts by solving the captcha. HTTPS is no longer something hard
to get in any application. So far so good with the new system, no
spammer got that familiar with Kamailio modules :-), but there
were few new valid accounts.
Well,
I would be very nice for the
https://www.kamailio.org to work (at the
moment it returns an 200 OK with an empty HTML Page). Also, I consider
bad security practice to allow traffic that is uncrypted for login
forms, but I agree it has small benefits.
You can access the login forms via https and it is recommended to use
https for logging it, as mentioned on the front page of dokuwiki -- I
just said that the https vs http does not bring benefits against spammers.
2. Fix the
kamailio.org <http://kamailio.org> certificate. At the
moment the identity of the domain can't be established as there
is no issuer chain provided with it.
From Firefox information page:
You actually need to fix Firefox -- I struggled yesterday a bit
with same situation. The certificate is actually new, generated
yesterday and signed by
CACert.org. The previous one was
selfsigned, from openser times, expired for few years.
I had to try other browsers to check if works, because Firefox was
displaying some error. Then I went back to stable channel from
beta channel without any success, even removing the old
certificate from firefox preference. To solve it, I cleared the cache.
I have tried with both Chrome and Firefox, both normal and Incognito
mode. Same error. I believe the problem is with the server.
It is working fine for me over https, tried both firefox and chrome. I
replaced the certificate because the previous one was expired and
mentioning openser. CACert is not a default trusted authority anyhow, I
choose that instead of another self signed certificate because CACert
has some popularity out there in the open source space.
So, you don't really get to the content via https? Or is just that the
browser does not trust it?
Cheers,
Daniel
The server provides the correct certificate (I've downloaded it), but
it must provide also an intermediate certificate signed with CaCert
RootCA. The client only has the Root CA, so for authentication of the
cert the intermediate one is needed.
I guess
https://www.globalsign.com/support/install/install_apache.php
provides a solution ( Note that the root CA might not make sense)
* Your virtual host section will need to contain the following
directives:
* |*SSLCACertificateFile*| – This will need to point to the
appropriate GlobalSign root CA certificate.
* |*SSLCertificateChainFile*| – This will need to point to the
appropriate intermediate root CA certificates you previously
created in Step 1 above.
* |*SSLCertificateFile*| – This will need to point to the end entity
certificate (the one you have called "mydomain.crt")
* |*SSLCertificateKeyFile*| – This will need to point to the private
key file associated with your certificate.
Let me know if works for you in the same way.
Cheers,
Daniel
"
kamailio.org <http://kamailio.org> uses an invalid security
certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because no issuer chain was provided.
(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)
"
Marius
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Edson - Lists <4lists(a)gmail.com
<mailto:4lists@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just as a side note, I've seem anti-spambots 'captcha
systems' (just see, not implemented, nor know about a library
that implement it) that use a dual factor approach: one that
you see and one that you know.
Indeed very simple: show an image and ask something about it.
Questions can be: type just the letters, type just the
numbers, type numbers and letters in pre-defined order
(left-to-right,up-down,etc), number of colors, of groups,
color on the booton right, etc... The combination are limited
on the imagination. And the best: it increment in exponential
the way bots have to work.
Does anybody knows a library/system that implement such
approach not all of them, but at least part of it?
Edson.
Em 01/04/2013 06:27, Daniel-Constantin Mierla escreveu:
Hello,
as of yesterday, creation of new accounts for Kamailio's
wiki site
requires to answer a project related question. Captcha
was useless as
spam bots were lately going through it easily, creating
accounts in a
rate of approx 50 new registrations per day.
The extra question is asked just after CAPTCHA, see it at:
-
https://www.kamailio.org/wiki/start?do=register
Hopefully the questions are simple enough to allow good
people to
register and difficult enough for spambots to give up. It
is not a very
sophisticated system, let's see if there will be any
efforts in reverse
engineering to break in with bots. So far no new spammer
account. If
they will succeed, at least they learn something useful.
If anyone has difficulties creating wiki accounts, write
an email to
sr-dev mailing list and it will be investigated.
Cheers,
Daniel
PS. This registration system will last, is not for April 1.
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