On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 08:14:02AM -0400, Luis Rojas G. wrote:Yes, I know that specifically in this case, from the point fo view of SIP, it's not "much" important. It's just a symptom than I can't rely on Kamailio to keep the ordering of messages when they are very very close in time. With this customer (a Brazilian mobile operator) I have seen scenarios where they send Re-Invite immediately after ACK, and sometimes it caused us problems. I can't think right now in other scenario,, but I'm afraid to find out in production. For what I see the Async module, as it is now, could help me to deal with requests. However, even though it's not a problem for SIP, the operator will complain, I know them. And also, they will not like to just drop the 180, because there will be scenarios with interworking, so it needs to propagate the ACM ISUP body, with parameters as backward call indicators.Agreed that you need to conserve signalling messages end-to-end, as a matter of principle; can't just drop things. As I mentioned earlier, we had the same problem--ironically, with a major mobile operator--sending reinvites and e2e ACKs almost contemporaneously. We solved it with 'async' by delaying all reinvites by 50 ms, and haven't had a single complaint since. Aside from that specific scenario, we haven't seen ordering problems, and have never had cause to call into question whether we can 'rely' on Kamailio to conserve ordering. There are valid questions raised in this thread about whether any user-space SIP element subject to the vicissitudes and realities of packet-switched networking can be relied upon to preserve ordering in a consistent and universal way. At the end of the day, this is a network problem. PSTN interworking is imperfect; it imposes synchronous assumptions upon asynchronous media, and we see this play out in many areas, e.g. fax. Not much you can do about it, but thankfully the corner cases are relatively few. -- Alex
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