Jai,
I like this second thought you expressed.
When building from CentOS CD/DVD it is common to build servers first with
Gnome as for DeskTop use. After fully configured, we always
change them down to run level 3 for server mode use. The extra
programs on the hard disk are not usually an issue to most Enterprise IT
folks.
If we expect the Enterprise-IT person to build the OS from distro, then
we need to document
the required build details, then when we get our first script to examine
it, we can survey
the landscape and see if all the right stuff is present.
If we expect to fine-tune a minimum image size, then we must do the
2->3->2->3->
dance until we really shrink it down. However, I feel that
decision can be held
until we see a complete running SER with all goodies that can be
dropped in on top
of a known OS baseline.
Right after new year, I will build two CentOS-5.1 machines and put them
on public IP for
examination and tinkering by all. This should be helpful for
developers to confirm
what is available in standard distro.
..mike..
At 12:48 PM 12/17/2007, Jai Rangi wrote:
Also I was thinking what some
one can do if I give him a machine which has all the packages installed.
Dont we need some good case studies/example configurations which should
be part of the project.
-Jai
On Dec 17, 2007 9:44 AM, Jai Rangi
<jprangi@gmail.com>
wrote:
- 1) Determine what needs to be on the basic CentOS 5 install for
- everything to work properly (including iptables and such since we
should
- assume security is an important factor).
- 2) Determine what's left that needs to be installed that doesn't come
- with the distro for any base dependencies.
- 3) Determine the order in which the apps need to be installed (for
the
- post-proc. script).
- This sounds good approach. The only thing I see is that be might be
going 2->3->2->3->... few times before we get the final
version of 2. Ofcourse this assumes that all the dependencies should be
the default/latest versions of packages from CentOS CD.
- -Jai
- On Dec 17, 2007 6:16 AM, SIP
<sip@arcdiv.com> wrote:
- Okay... starting with a base image of CentOS 5 (which, I
believe,
- includes MySQL 5.0.? Don't recall which version... perhaps someone
can
- fill in there), what are the initial things that would need to
be
- installed for base-level dependencies (things not already on the
machine
- and ready to go).
- Then, we should start a list of what needs to be installed based on
the
- order in which it should be installed (for the post-processing
script)
- for the basic required stuff.
- Also, for any optional packages that will be installed, we'll need a
- list of dependencies.
- I think that's a logical next step assuming the CentOS machine has
been
- installed (which is NOT an assumption we should overlook, as we'll
need
- to determine what portions of the CentOS base machine SHOULD and
should
- NOT be installed (i.e. do we really need print services, games, and
an X
- environment in our base install, etc, etc)).
- SO.... three steps really.
- 1) Determine what needs to be on the basic CentOS 5 install for
- everything to work properly (including iptables and such since we
should
- assume security is an important factor).
- 2) Determine what's left that needs to be installed that doesn't
come
- with the distro for any base dependencies.
- 3) Determine the order in which the apps need to be installed (for
the
- post-proc. script).
- I'm just throwing out ideas here. Feel free to tell me I'm going
about
- this the wrong way.
- N.
- Greger V. Teigre wrote:
- > :-) we only need to get this thing together then...
- > g-)
- >
- > ram wrote:
- >>
- >>
- >> On Dec 16, 2007 1:33 PM, Greger V. Teigre <
greger@teigre.com
- >>
<
mailto:greger@teigre.com>> wrote:
- >>
- >> Using kickstart sounds good to
me. I think we should keep
- >> separate the different steps:
- >> 1. Create a base image of the
OS
- >> 2. Install the
iptel.org <
http://iptel.org/>
apps and dependencies
- >> 3. Do local configurations
- >> 4. Create deployable virtual
machine
- >>
- >> If each of these steps are isolated,
different people can be
- >> responsible for the different
steps.
- >>
- >> I have reorganized the project page
into sections and
- >> incorporated lots of input from
Jeremy at
- >>
http://iptel.org/bundle/project
- >> We now need to create a project
plan, split into
- >> responsibilities, and take some key
decisions.
- >> I think one key decision that we
have already converged on is:
- >> for first version use CentOS5 and
create vmware appliance.
- >> g-)
- >>
- >>
- >>
- >> I have Server ready with Centos5
- >>
- >> let me know any test need to be done
- >>
- >> ram
- >>
- >
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