4 Dec
2017
4 Dec
'17
10:56 p.m.
The hash_size has no relevance on how many dialogs can be handled. It is
only related to the lookup performance. So even with hash_size=1 you can
have same number of dialogs as with hash_size=4096 or higher.
The difference is that with hash_size=1, all the dialogs are in a single
linked list, so if you have 2000 active dialog, you may have the worse
case that it requires 2000 matching operations to lookup a specific dialog.
If the hash_size is 2048, the at 2000 active calls and a fair
distribution, then looking up a specific dialog will be done in a single
matching operation. Fair distribution cannot be ensure, but it is quite
good, so typically the difference between the list loaded slot and most
loaded slot is not that high. I expect that worse case situation won't
require more that 5 matching operations on a hash table with 2048 slots
when having 2000 active calls.
To put limit on active calls, the simplest solution is to do a test on
$stat(active_dialogs)>=limit then reject the initial invite:
-
https://www.kamailio.org/docs/modules/stable/modules/dialog.html#idp34022668
You may need statistics module to get the $stat(...) var:
- https://www.kamailio.org/docs/modules/stable/modules/statistics.html
The alternative would be to set all active calls in a single dialog profile.
-
https://www.kamailio.org/docs/modules/stable/modules/dialog.html#dialog.f.s…
Then get the size of the profile and test it against the limit.
This is more suitable if you want to set limits per user, a.s.o.,
because you can group on profiles with a specific key (e.g., username).
Cheers,
Daniel
On 04.12.17 19:28, Mark Blackford wrote:
Thank you for your response!
I am currently replacing the call_control module used with CDRTool
Prepaid with the dialog module using hash tables. The speed and
stability are tremendously better!
My concern is two-fold:
1) I do not want calls to be blocked because I set the hash table size
too small.
2) I do not want any memory usage problems that could cause kamailio
stability issues.
My understanding, or at least how I want to use the "hash_size"
modparam, is that hash_size gives dialog a set memory space (aka slots
and buckets) to store the dialogs being tracked. This is great since
I "think" I will have constant memory consumption that will be a fixed
amount and never "grow". However, I wanted to get a rough idea of how
many dialogs (customer calls) I could track per kamailio instance to
properly choose the hash size.
I thought it would be easy to set the value to something very small in
the lab and just run up the number of calls until kamailio hits an
upper limit and fails to create any more dialogs.
modparam("dialog", "hash_size", 32)
However, I am able to create almost 2000 dialogs no matter what size I
choose. After, reading the information in the link about hash tables
and your response, I see how a larger table with more "hashing"
increases lookup performance, but I still do not see how the total
number of dialogs that the module tracks can be set so that the
kamailio memory usage is protected. I still look at the hash_size as
the key here and that there should be a relationship, perhaps rough at
best, to the maximum number of dialogs supported in the table.
Thanks so much for your time,
Mark Blackord
Digium Cloud Services
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 2:50 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla
<miconda(a)gmail.com <mailto:miconda@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
hash size does not set any limitation to the number of dialogs
(active calls), it has impact on searching the dialogs, so if you
have a lot of active calls, increasing the hash size might improve
performances. Effectively the hash size is used to compute the
number of slots (aka buckets) the hash table is going to have, see
more technical details about hash tables at:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_table
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_table>
Can you elaborate on your statement:
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but even setting the hash size to a very tiny
number does stop me from creating hundreds of dialogs
Do you mean you are not able to create as many dialogs as you want?
Cheers,
Daniel
On 01.12.17 19:54, Mark Blackford wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to properly size the use of the Dialog Module hash
for our implementation using:
modparam("dialog", "hash_size", <number that is power of
two>)
However, in my testing, I have been unable to figure out the
relationship between the hash size and a number of dialogs I need
to support. I think the hash size is specifying a memory block
in kB, but even setting the hash size to a very tiny number does
stop me from creating hundreds of dialogs.
Is there a way to determine a relationship between the hash size
and a rough number of dialogs that would be expected?
An example of a a dialog looks like this from kamctl:
[root@kamailio01 ~]# kamctl dialog show
dialog memory records
dialog:: hash=22:70
state:: 4
ref_count:: 2
timestart:: 1512151205
timeout:: 36083666
callid::
0gQAAC8WAAACBAAALxYAAClws2wyL8GE+CSgRY7HIhmg9ZUIISZad46ntOPng3iPIcLaxzLFaytRTI7M0Bzz0g--(a)10.155.8.40
<mailto:0gQAAC8WAAACBAAALxYAAClws2wyL8GE%2BCSgRY7HIhmg9ZUIISZad46ntOPng3iPIcLaxzLFaytRTI7M0Bzz0g--@10.155.8.40>
from_uri::
sip:b53667d44239457fbc94fc2f4c4e25a6@sip.dcs-staging.net
<mailto:sip%3Ab53667d44239457fbc94fc2f4c4e25a6@sip.dcs-staging.net>
from_tag:: 10.155.8.40+1+689d7e5e+8fcf481a
caller_contact::
sip:43f0ae1480846185e8803f21e9f2b721@10.155.8.40:5060;transport=udp
caller_cseq:: 24115
caller_route_set::
caller_bind_addr:: udp:10.155.8.11:5060 <http://10.155.8.11:5060>
callee_bind_addr:: udp:10.155.8.11:5060 <http://10.155.8.11:5060>
to_uri:: sip:2052773090@sip.dcs-staging.net
<mailto:sip%3A2052773090@sip.dcs-staging.net>
to_tag:: sip+1+bdcd0004+2038f37c
callee_contact::
sip:ca2013e84f10348a1cc825c12562bde7@10.155.8.40:5060;transport=udp
callee_cseq:: 0
callee_route_set::
Thanks!
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