From: "Douglas Garstang"
<dgarstang(a)oneeighty.com>
To: "Tavis P" <tavis.lists@galaxytelecom.net>,<devel@openser.org>
CC: users(a)openser.org
Subject: RE: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:35:37 -0600
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From: Tavis P [mailto:tavis.lists@galaxytelecom.net]
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Subject: Re: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
Douglas Garstang wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tavis P [mailto:tavis.lists@galaxytelecom.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Devel] RE: [Users] OpenSER - one year old
>
>
> Juha Heinanen wrote:
>
>> Douglas Garstang writes:
>>
>> > My comments are constructive. I've constructively
stated
several
>> > times that the documentation is
very bad. Each time I've
>>
> made this
>
>> > constructive comment, I've been attacked. In my previous
>>
> post, I made
>
>> > another constructive comment. I said that maybe the reason the
>> > documentation is so bad is that the project isn't that old.
>>
>> rather that complaining, learn to read the relevant pieces
>>
> of code and
>
>> write better documentation.
>>
>> -- juha
>>
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> I find it interesting that you would characterize your
statements as
"constructive" and the responses you've received as "attacks"
I believe this may be one of the central issues
Why do you consider my opinion that the documentation is
bad, and that it should
be maintained by the developers interesting?
Its not your opinion on the documentation that i find interesting, its
how you characterize your dislike for the documentation (and repeated
expression of it)
In my opinion, if you are able to use an application you are able to
document how you use it.
I am not a C developer however i have contributed to the
documentation,
and i believe it is with this type of action that Open Source
communities become strong (contribution).
Having someone constantly express what they don't like about
the project
yet do little else to effect change in it serves no positive or
productive purpose
OpenSER is an excellent application and i am proud to be a part of its
community. A community that responds to impatience and contempt with
patience and wisdom
Please help us keep this community healthy because in the end it
benefits us all (in more ways that i can count)
Demanding that others solve perceived issues is generally not a good
approach (unless you are dealing with a commercial entity and has a
professional responsibility to you)
Sorry, but I disagree with you. I'm fed up with relying on documentation
that's badly written or wrong, because the person who wrote it made
assumptions about what they thought they knew... because they in turn
relied upon someone else who had made the same mistakes. The reason the
chain of events got started in the first place was because people played
around, experimated, tinkered, etc, and came to incorrect conclusions.
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