Re: [Serusers] PSTN

Hi Geger, Thank you for your reply. My rtpproxy is not behind NAT. how can I make the c=IP4 not to be rewritten by the nathelper? I do my rtpproxy commands like this :~ rtpproxy -2fv -l public_ip public_ip....is this correct? Regards, Nicky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greger V. Teigre" <greger(a)teigre.com> To: "Nicky" <nicky(a)caliber.com.sg>sg>; "Kapil Dhawan" <sersavvy(a)hotmail.com>om>; <zeus.ng(a)isquare.com.au> Cc: <serusers(a)lists.iptel.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Serusers] PSTN > Nicky, > You have your rtp proxy behind a NAT? If so, no wonders you have > problems making the RTP streams flow. > The IP address in the c=IP4 is rewritten by nathelper, but it is > received from the rtpproxy. I attach a small patch that adds -i > parameter to rtpproxy where you can define your public IP address of > rtpproxy: rtpproxy -l internal_address -i public_ip. > It is against the cvs version at > http://cvs.berlios.de/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ser/rtpproxy/ > > Hope it helps, > Greger > > Nicky wrote: >> Hi , >> >> i am facing the same problem, can advice where you add the >> t_on_reply("1") to make the PSTN have audio. >> I have another problem I want to send public address instead of NAT >> address in the c=IP4 function in the SDP message, anyone done this >> before, i am a newbie I am problem in trying to code it. Please >> help. Thanks in advance..... >> >> Regards, >> nicky >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kapil Dhawan" <sersavvy(a)hotmail.com> >> To: <zeus.ng(a)isquare.com.au> >> Cc: <serusers(a)lists.iptel.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:19 PM >> Subject: RE: [Serusers] PSTN >> >> >> exactly...you are right...i was skipping it somehow and now working >> ok.... >> >> >>> From: "Zeus Ng" <zeus.ng(a)isquare.com.au> >>> To: "Kapil Dhawan" <sersavvy(a)hotmail.com> >>> CC: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>> Subject: RE: [Serusers] PSTN >>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 11:42:07 +1000 (EST) >>> >>> You should do the t_on_reply("1") for PSTN call as well. I hope the >>> other thread you mentioned about solving the problem is what I said >>> here. >>> >>> Zeus >>> >>>> Hi List >>>> >>>> I am still unable to solve this issue why the my NAT user is >>>> unable to hear >>>> when he makes a PSTn call.. >>>> >>>> # ----------- global configuration parameters >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> debug=8 # debug level (cmd line: -dddddddddd) >>>> fork=yes >>>> log_stderror=yes # (cmd line: -E) >>>> >>>> check_via=no # (cmd. line: -v) >>>> dns=no # (cmd. line: -r) >>>> rev_dns=no # (cmd. line: -R) >>>> port=5060 >>>> children=4 >>>> fifo="/tmp/ser_fifo" >>>> >>>> # ------------------ module loading >>>> ---------------------------------- >>>> >>>> # Uncomment this if you want to use SQL database >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/mysql.so" >>>> >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/sl.so" >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/tm.so" >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/rr.so" >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/maxfwd.so" >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/usrloc.so" >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/registrar.so" >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/textops.so" >>>> >>>> # Uncomment this if you want digest authentication >>>> # mysql.so must be loaded ! >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/auth.so" >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/auth_db.so" >>>> >>>> # !! Nathelper >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/nathelper.so" >>>> >>>> # !! Accounting >>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/acc.so" >>>> >>>> # ----------------- setting module-specific parameters >>>> --------------- >>>> >>>> # -- usrloc params -- >>>> >>>> #modparam("usrloc", "db_mode", 0) >>>> >>>> # Uncomment this if you want to use SQL database >>>> # for persistent storage and comment the previous line >>>> modparam("usrloc", "db_mode", 2) >>>> >>>> # -- auth params -- >>>> # Uncomment if you are using auth module >>>> # >>>> modparam("auth_db", "calculate_ha1", yes) >>>> # >>>> # If you set "calculate_ha1" parameter to yes (which true in this >>>> config), # uncomment also the following parameter) >>>> # >>>> modparam("auth_db", "password_column", "password") >>>> >>>> # -- rr params -- >>>> # add value to ;lr param to make some broken UAs happy >>>> modparam("rr", "enable_full_lr", 1) >>>> >>>> # !! Nathelper >>>> # -- nathelper params -- >>>> modparam("registrar", "nat_flag", 6) >>>> modparam("nathelper", "natping_interval", 30) # Ping interval 30 s >>>> modparam("nathelper", "ping_nated_only", 1) # Ping only clients >>>> behind NAT >>>> >>>> # !! Accounting >>>> # -- acc params -- >>>> # set the reporting log level >>>> modparam("acc", "log_level", 2) # Set log_level to 2 >>>> # number of flag, which will be used for accounting; if a message >>>> is # labeled with this flag, its completion status will be >>>> reported modparam("acc", "log_flag", 1 ) >>>> modparam("acc", "log_missed_flag", 2) >>>> modparam("acc", "failed_transactions", 1) >>>> modparam("acc", "report_cancels", 1) >>>> modparam("acc", "db_url", "mysql://ser:heslo@localhost/ser") >>>> modparam("acc", "db_flag", 1) >>>> modparam("acc", "db_missed_flag", 2) >>>> >>>> # ------------------------- request routing logic >>>> ------------------- >>>> >>>> # main routing logic >>>> >>>> route{ >>>> >>>> # initial sanity checks -- messages with >>>> # max_forwards==0, or excessively long requests >>>> if (!mf_process_maxfwd_header("10")) { >>>> sl_send_reply("483","Too Many Hops"); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> if (msg:len >= max_len ) { >>>> sl_send_reply("513", "Message too big"); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> # !! Nathelper >>>> # Special handling for NATed clients; first, NAT test is >>>> # executed: it looks for via!=received and RFC1918 addresses >>>> # in Contact (may fail if line-folding is used); also, >>>> # the received test should, if completed, should check all >>>> # vias for rpesence of received >>>> if (nat_uac_test("3")) { >>>> # Allow RR-ed requests, as these may indicate that >>>> # a NAT-enabled proxy takes care of it; unless it is >>>> # a REGISTER >>>> >>>> if (method == "REGISTER" || ! search("^Record-Route:")) { >>>> log("LOG: Someone trying to register from private IP, >>>> rewriting\n"); >>>> >>>> # This will work only for user agents that support symmetric >>>> # communication. We tested quite many of them and majority is >>>> # smart enough to be symmetric. In some phones it takes a >>>> configuration >>>> # option. With Cisco 7960, it is called NAT_Enable=Yes, with >>>> kphone it >>>> is >>>> # called "symmetric media" and "symmetric signalling". >>>> >>>> fix_nated_contact(); # Rewrite contact with source IP of >>>> signalling if (method == "INVITE") { >>>> fix_nated_sdp("1"); # Add direction=active to SDP >>>> }; >>>> force_rport(); # Add rport parameter to topmost Via >>>> setflag(6); # Mark as NATed >>>> }; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> # labeled all transaction for accounting >>>> setflag(1); >>>> setflag(2); >>>> >>>> # we record-route all messages -- to make sure that >>>> # subsequent messages will go through our proxy; that's >>>> # particularly good if upstream and downstream entities >>>> # use different transport protocol >>>> if (!method=="REGISTER") record_route(); >>>> >>>> # subsequent messages withing a dialog should take the >>>> # path determined by record-routing >>>> if (loose_route()) { >>>> # mark routing logic in request >>>> append_hf("P-hint: rr-enforced\r\n"); >>>> route(1); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> if (!uri==myself) { >>>> # mark routing logic in request >>>> append_hf("P-hint: outbound\r\n"); >>>> route(1); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> # if the request is for other domain use UsrLoc >>>> # (in case, it does not work, use the following command >>>> # with proper names and addresses in it) >>>> if (uri==myself) { >>>> >>>> if (method=="REGISTER") { >>>> >>>> # Uncomment this if you want to use digest authentication >>>> if (!www_authorize("1.1.1.1","subscriber")) { >>>> www_challenge("1.1.1.1", "0"); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> save("location"); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> if(uri=~"^sip:00*"){ >>>> append_hf("P-hint: PSTN call\r\n"); >>>> route(1); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> lookup("aliases"); >>>> if (!uri==myself) { >>>> append_hf("P-hint: outbound alias\r\n"); >>>> route(1); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> # native SIP destinations are handled using our USRLOC DB >>>> if (!lookup("location")) { >>>> sl_send_reply("404", "Not Found"); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> }; >>>> append_hf("P-hint: usrloc applied\r\n"); >>>> route(1); >>>> } >>>> >>>> route[1] >>>> { >>>> # !! Nathelper >>>> if (uri=~"[@:](192\.168\.|10\.|172\.(1[6-9]|2[0-9]|3[0-1])\.)" && >>>> !search("^Route:")){ >>>> sl_send_reply("479", "We don't forward to private IP >>>> addresses"); break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> # if client or server know to be behind a NAT, enable relay >>>> if (isflagset(6)) { >>>> force_rtp_proxy(); >>>> }; >>>> >>>> if(uri=~"^sip:00*"){ >>>> rewritehost("2.2.2.2"); >>>> t_relay_to_udp("2.2.2.2","5060"); >>>> break; >>>> }; >>>> >>>> # NAT processing of replies; apply to all transactions (for >>>> example, # re-INVITEs from public to private UA are hard to >>>> identify as # NATed at the moment of request processing); look at >>>> replies t_on_reply("1"); >>>> >>>> # send it out now; use stateful forwarding as it works reliably >>>> # even for UDP2TCP >>>> if (!t_relay()) { >>>> sl_reply_error(); >>>> }; >>>> } >>>> >>>> # !! Nathelper >>>> onreply_route[1] { >>>> # NATed transaction ? >>>> if (isflagset(6) && status =~ "(183)|2[0-9][0-9]") { >>>> fix_nated_contact(); >>>> force_rtp_proxy(); >>>> # otherwise, is it a transaction behind a NAT and we did not >>>> # know at time of request processing ? (RFC1918 contacts) >>>> } else if (nat_uac_test("1")) { >>>> fix_nated_contact(); >>>> }; >>>> } >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: "Kapil Dhawan" <sersavvy(a)hotmail.com> >>>>> To: sersavvy(a)hotmail.com >>>>> CC: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>>> Subject: RE: [Serusers] PSTN >>>>> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 05:02:54 +0000 >>>>> >>>>> Hi my second part is done...i have used t_relay_to_udp rather >>>>> than forward >>>>> for pstn calls and now logs are coming....for pstn as well >>>>> >>>>> but first is till not done. >>>>> >>>>>> From: "Kapil Dhawan" <sersavvy(a)hotmail.com> >>>>>> To: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>>>> Subject: [Serusers] PSTN >>>>>> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:59:07 +0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi List >>>>>> >>>>>> I am running rtpproxy and nathelper which is fine for me...but >>>>>> when i >>>>> transfer all calls starting with 00 to my SIP gateway...then >>>>> person calling >>>>> from public IP is able to hear properly the pstn call and person >>>>> calling behind NAT can not hear but the pstn callee can hear that >>>>> behind NAT guy... >>>>>> >>>>>> and second is i am storing logs in acc table...there is i make a >>>>> SIP-SIP >>>>> call, i get proper logs but if i make PSTN call whether from >>>>> public or private IP, i only get BYE record.. >>>>>> >>>>>> below is my ser.cfg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> # >>>>>> # $Id: nathelper.cfg,v 1.1.2.1 2003/11/24 14:47:18 janakj Exp $ >>>>>> # >>>>>> # simple quick-start config script including nathelper support >>>>>> >>>>>> # This default script includes nathelper support. To make it >>>>>> work # you will also have to install Maxim's RTP proxy. The >>>>>> proxy is enforced # if one of the parties is behind a NAT. >>>>>> # >>>>>> # If you have an endpoing in the public internet which is known >>>>>> to # support symmetric RTP (Cisco PSTN gateway or voicemail, for >>>>>> example), # then you don't have to force RTP proxy. If you don't >>>>>> want to enforce # RTP proxy for some destinations than simply >>>>>> use t_relay() instead of # route(1) >>>>>> # >>>>>> # Sections marked with !! Nathelper contain modifications for >>>>>> nathelper # >>>>>> # NOTE !! This config is EXPERIMENTAL ! >>>>>> # >>>>>> # ----------- global configuration parameters >>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> debug=8 # debug level (cmd line: -dddddddddd) >>>>>> fork=yes >>>>>> log_stderror=yes # (cmd line: -E) >>>>>> >>>>>> /* Uncomment these lines to enter debugging mode >>>>>> fork=no >>>>>> log_stderror=yes >>>>>> */ >>>>>> >>>>>> check_via=no # (cmd. line: -v) >>>>>> dns=no # (cmd. line: -r) >>>>>> rev_dns=no # (cmd. line: -R) >>>>>> port=5060 >>>>>> children=4 >>>>>> fifo="/tmp/ser_fifo" >>>>>> >>>>>> # ------------------ module loading >>>>>> ---------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> # Uncomment this if you want to use SQL database >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/mysql.so" >>>>>> >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/sl.so" >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/tm.so" >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/rr.so" >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/maxfwd.so" >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/usrloc.so" >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/registrar.so" >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/textops.so" >>>>>> >>>>>> # Uncomment this if you want digest authentication >>>>>> # mysql.so must be loaded ! >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/auth.so" >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/auth_db.so" >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Nathelper >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/nathelper.so" >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Accounting >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/acc.so" >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Voicemail And Conference >>>>>> loadmodule "/usr/local/lib/ser/modules/vm.so" >>>>>> >>>>>> # ----------------- setting module-specific parameters >>>>>> --------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> # -- usrloc params -- >>>>>> >>>>>> #modparam("usrloc", "db_mode", 0) >>>>>> >>>>>> # Uncomment this if you want to use SQL database >>>>>> # for persistent storage and comment the previous line >>>>>> modparam("usrloc", "db_mode", 2) >>>>>> >>>>>> # -- auth params -- >>>>>> # Uncomment if you are using auth module >>>>>> # >>>>>> modparam("auth_db", "calculate_ha1", yes) >>>>>> # >>>>>> # If you set "calculate_ha1" parameter to yes (which true in >>>>>> this config), # uncomment also the following parameter) >>>>>> # >>>>>> modparam("auth_db", "password_column", "password") >>>>>> >>>>>> # -- rr params -- >>>>>> # add value to ;lr param to make some broken UAs happy >>>>>> modparam("rr", "enable_full_lr", 1) >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Nathelper >>>>>> # -- nathelper params -- >>>>>> modparam("registrar", "nat_flag", 6) >>>>>> modparam("nathelper", "natping_interval", 30) # Ping interval >>>>>> 30 s modparam("nathelper", "ping_nated_only", 1) # Ping only >>>>>> clients >>>>> behind >>>>> NAT >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Accounting >>>>>> # -- acc params -- >>>>>> # set the reporting log level >>>>>> modparam("acc", "log_level", 2) # Set log_level to 2 >>>>>> # number of flag, which will be used for accounting; if a >>>>>> message is # labeled with this flag, its completion status will >>>>>> be reported modparam("acc", "log_flag", 1 ) >>>>>> modparam("acc", "log_missed_flag", 2) >>>>>> modparam("acc", "failed_transactions", 1) >>>>>> modparam("acc", "report_cancels", 1) >>>>>> modparam("acc", "db_url", "mysql://ser:heslo@localhost/ser") >>>>>> modparam("acc", "db_flag", 1) >>>>>> modparam("acc", "db_missed_flag", 2) >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Transaction >>>>>> # -- tm params -- >>>>>> modparam("tm", "fr_inv_timer", 200) >>>>>> >>>>>> # ------------------------- request routing logic >>>>>> ------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> # main routing logic >>>>>> >>>>>> route{ >>>>>> >>>>>> # initial sanity checks -- messages with >>>>>> # max_forwards==0, or excessively long requests >>>>>> if (!mf_process_maxfwd_header("10")) { >>>>>> sl_send_reply("483","Too Many Hops"); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> if (msg:len >= max_len ) { >>>>>> sl_send_reply("513", "Message too big"); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Nathelper >>>>>> # Special handling for NATed clients; first, NAT test is >>>>>> # executed: it looks for via!=received and RFC1918 addresses >>>>>> # in Contact (may fail if line-folding is used); also, >>>>>> # the received test should, if completed, should check all >>>>>> # vias for rpesence of received >>>>>> if (nat_uac_test("3")) { >>>>>> # Allow RR-ed requests, as these may indicate that >>>>>> # a NAT-enabled proxy takes care of it; unless it is >>>>>> # a REGISTER >>>>>> >>>>>> if (method == "REGISTER" || ! search("^Record-Route:")) { >>>>>> log("LOG: Someone trying to register from private IP, >>>>>> rewriting\n"); >>>>>> >>>>>> # This will work only for user agents that support symmetric >>>>>> # communication. We tested quite many of them and majority >>>>>> is # smart enough to be symmetric. In some phones it takes a >>>>>> configuration # option. With Cisco 7960, it is called >>>>>> NAT_Enable=Yes, with >>>>> kphone >>>>> it is >>>>>> # called "symmetric media" and "symmetric signalling". >>>>>> >>>>>> fix_nated_contact(); # Rewrite contact with source IP of >>>>>> signalling if (method == "INVITE") { >>>>>> fix_nated_sdp("1"); # Add direction=active to SDP >>>>>> }; >>>>>> force_rport(); # Add rport parameter to topmost Via >>>>>> setflag(6); # Mark as NATed >>>>>> }; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> # labeled all transaction for accounting >>>>>> setflag(1); >>>>>> setflag(2); >>>>>> >>>>>> # we record-route all messages -- to make sure that >>>>>> # subsequent messages will go through our proxy; that's >>>>>> # particularly good if upstream and downstream entities >>>>>> # use different transport protocol >>>>>> if (!method=="REGISTER") record_route(); >>>>>> >>>>>> # subsequent messages withing a dialog should take the >>>>>> # path determined by record-routing >>>>>> if (loose_route()) { >>>>>> # mark routing logic in request >>>>>> append_hf("P-hint: rr-enforced\r\n"); >>>>>> route(1); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> if (!uri==myself) { >>>>>> # mark routing logic in request >>>>>> append_hf("P-hint: outbound\r\n"); >>>>>> route(1); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> # if the request is for other domain use UsrLoc >>>>>> # (in case, it does not work, use the following command >>>>>> # with proper names and addresses in it) >>>>>> if (uri==myself) { >>>>>> >>>>>> if (method=="REGISTER") { >>>>>> >>>>>> # Uncomment this if you want to use digest authentication >>>>>> if (!www_authorize("220.226.42.185","subscriber")) { >>>>>> www_challenge("220.226.42.185", "0"); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> save("location"); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> lookup("aliases"); >>>>>> if (!uri==myself) { >>>>>> append_hf("P-hint: outbound alias\r\n"); >>>>>> route(1); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> # native SIP destinations are handled using our USRLOC DB >>>>>> if (!lookup("location")) { >>>>>> sl_send_reply("404", "Not Found"); >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> append_hf("P-hint: usrloc applied\r\n"); >>>>>> route(1); >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> route[1] >>>>>> { >>>>>> # !! Nathelper >>>>>> if (uri=~"[@:](192\.168\.|10\.|172\.(1[6-9]|2[0-9]|3[0-1])\.)" >>>>>> && !search("^Route:")){ sl_send_reply("479", "We don't >>>>>> forward to private IP addresses"); break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> # if client or server know to be behind a NAT, enable relay >>>>>> if (isflagset(6)) { >>>>>> force_rtp_proxy(); >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> # NAT processing of replies; apply to all transactions (for >>>>>> example, # re-INVITEs from public to private UA are hard to >>>>>> identify as # NATed at the moment of request processing); look >>>>>> at replies t_on_reply("1"); >>>>>> >>>>>> if(uri=~"^sip:00*") >>>>>> { >>>>>> rewritehost(); >>>>>> forward() >>>>>> break; >>>>>> }; >>>>>> >>>>>> # send it out now; use stateful forwarding as it works reliably >>>>>> # even for UDP2TCP >>>>>> if (!t_relay()) { >>>>>> sl_reply_error(); >>>>>> }; >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> # !! Nathelper >>>>>> onreply_route[1] { >>>>>> # NATed transaction ? >>>>>> if (isflagset(6) && status =~ "(183)|2[0-9][0-9]") { >>>>>> fix_nated_contact(); >>>>>> force_rtp_proxy(); >>>>>> # otherwise, is it a transaction behind a NAT and we did not >>>>>> # know at time of request processing ? 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