9 Mar
2005
9 Mar
'05
11:51 a.m.
Hi Klaus,
I think we all agree that there has been a gap between needs and what has
been available. The serusers list has been suffering and people have spent
too many hours trying to track down information they need. Many people do
not have the technical capabilities you have and are not capable to sort
through unstructured information and sort the wheat from the chaff. This is
also extremely difficult when you are new the ser (and maybe SIP).
Exactly what should fill the gap is still open. We have made an attempt
at providing a space for user-contributed, semi-structured information at
http://onsip.org/. In my opinion it should not be like voip-info.org, there
is a need for somebody taking a moderator role to secure the accessibility
of the information (this is the "structured" part). Also, being able to
comment directly on downloads, posts, etc is often extremely valuable. The
PHP.net online (commentable) documentation is a very good example of this
"semi-structured" approach.
We don't have the answers, only some ideas, and it's up to the community
to vote forward the good ideas with clicks and contributions and the bad by
ignoring them (and maybe voip-info will come out as the better alternative).
Anyway, as you are one of the authoritative people on many ser issues, I
sincerely hope you take ONsip.org for what it is and contribute positively
to making ser more accessible to more people. You will hopefully find that
our intentions of posting complete ser.cfg examples from our Getting Started
document will cover some of the things on your list below. We had intended
to launch ONsip.org when the first draft was ready, but decided that the
recent discussion on the list would benefit from the information about our
current activities.
Best regards,
Greger
Klaus Darilion wrote:
Hi!
Up to now I can only find the README of the lcr module and the README
of the xlog modul on the website.
IMO it is a bad idea to put README files on this website. Who will
update these files if the original files in CVS will change. This will
lead to inconsistence.
I rather would like to see, if the site would be like voip-info:
Publishing user experiences and documentation which can't be found on
the iptel site. e.g.:
- snippets of ser.cfg for certain features
- complete ser.cfg's
- description of undocumented functions (until they are in the
original documentation. This way everbody can easily write
documentation and after some time a serdeveoper with cvs acces and
sgml knowledge can copy-past it into the offical documentation)
- architecture (HA, ser+asterisk, ser+gateways)
- NAT traversal
Only tested and working ser.cfg's should be posted here. No
discussions, feature requests ... --> these belong to the mailinglist.
regards,
klaus
Simon Miles wrote:
Dear All,
As the deployment of the iptel.org ser package has increased, the
number of questions being asked on the 'serusers' mailing list have also
increased, a significant proportion of them from people who are just
beginning to comprehend the usage of ser and the associated modules.
A group of experienced ser users have decided to help the community
and are working on a 'Getting Started' document that will detail how to
deploy a working ser environment and then configure it to support
authentication, MySQL, PSTN Gateways, NAT and many other facilities.
The same group have also noticed that creating a common repository of
files and modules that support ser is also greatly needed. This is
not a replacement of the iptel.org and cvs.berlios.de sites or the
serusers list, but an extension of their existing capability to support
the
practical side of deploying ser into live environments.
It is hoped to release the first draft of this 'Getting Started'
document into the community within the next few weeks.
The community site is already now open at http://onsip.org/. Please
register and have a look!
So watch this space and we hope that the community will appreciate
this work Paul ( phazlett(a)gmail.com ), Simon ( simon(a)SystemsRM.co.uk ),
Greger
( greger(a)teigre.com )
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