5 Jul
2005
5 Jul
'05
4:39 p.m.
same here, we just match the INVITE to the BYE, we have some unmatched
BYE's which over time we are trying to fine tune, as to why, and also
481 BYE (another thread) which I now ignore, since they seem to come
from one type of hardware.
In addition we are now building a matching system from the end gateway
where we pickup the CDR from the gateway, and match them to unmatched
BYE, which aint easy, and more of an art than a science
Iqbal
Olivier Taylor wrote:
U right :)
Olivier
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Java Rockx [mailto:javarockx@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mardi 5 juillet 2005 16:02
À : Olivier Taylor
Cc : Iqbal; serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Objet : Re: RE : RE : [Serusers] session duration accounting
No so. We only charge if the INVITE has a matching BYE, which means that the
other end when off hook or went to voice mail or was call forwarded to
another number.
In any event, a CANCEL would not be billable because of the 486 reply that
was accounted for.
Regards,
Paul
On 7/5/05, Olivier Taylor <olivier.taylor(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Well, in this case, I must agree, in my case I am charged only from
the ACKs, I use B2bua for accounting, but I have no diffrence between
ACC standard table, Radacct(radius accounting) and my pstn provider,
that's why I use ACKs and not Invites.
In your case, you will charge the caller even if the callee is away
and even if the caller decides to cancel the call before the callee
answers.
What's the meaning of life ;)
Regards,
Olivier
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Java Rockx [mailto:javarockx@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mardi 5 juillet 2005 15:44
À : Olivier Taylor
Cc : Iqbal; Ryan Pagquil; serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Objet : Re: RE : [Serusers] session duration accounting
I understand what you're saying, however, I disagree with your
suggestion because me (as a PSTN gateway owner) will be charged tolls
based on the INVITE-to-BYE duration from my carriers for completed
calls.
So if I'm only billing durations from ACK to BYE, then :
1) How would I accurately determine which ACK to account against
considering that many ACKs can happen during any call? For instance,
if you get put on hold or a re-INVITE.
2) Why should I give the customer 30 seconds of free platform time
when my carriers bill me toll charges for that period?
Regards,
Paul
On 7/5/05, Olivier Taylor <olivier.taylor(a)gmail.com> wrote:
.
Hi Iqbal,
I think the query u gave is not really correct, the INVITES are the
beginning of the sessions, I think we must use the ACKs for a real
accounting of the call. Just think, if it takes 30 seconds to the
callee to hang on, u will overcharge him. I just suggest to replace
the INVITES by ACKs.
Regards.
Olivier
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De la part de Iqbal Envoyé : mardi 5 juillet 2005 13:28 À : Ryan
Pagquil Cc : serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Objet : Re: [Serusers] session duration accounting
put those queries in mysql and it should lookup your acc table
Iqbal
Ryan Pagquil wrote:
Hi,
So the only concept on how will I account for duration is to
account for INVITE and BYE methods...BTW, where will I put those
queries? Sorry, I'm in a stage of discovering SER.=)
Thanks,
Java Rockx wrote:
>Ryan,
>
>This MySQL query should do the trick. It joins the acc table to
>itself. One side grabs INVITE messages and the other side grabs
>BYE messages.
>
>NOTE: This will not work if you account for re-INVITE messages
>because you will then have multple INVITEs for the same call.
>
>Regards,
>Paul
>
>SELECT t1.from_uri as orig_number, t1.to_uri as term_number,
>TIMEDIFF(t2.time, t1.time) as duration, t1.timestamp as calldate
>FROM acc t1, acc t2 WHERE t1.sip_callid = t2.sip_callid AND
>((t1.fromtag = t2.fromtag and t1.totag = t2.totag) OR (t1.fromtag
>= t2.totag and t1.totag = t2.fromtag)) AND t1.sip_method='INVITE'
>AND t2.sip_method='BYE'
>
>On 7/4/05, Iqbal <iqbal(a)gigo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>its records the INVITE and BYE, so fro there you can work out
>>the session duration
>>
>>Iqbal
>>
>>Ryan Pagquil wrote:
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>>
>>>guys,
>>> just want to ask if i can make ser to account session
>>>durations for billing purposes?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>
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