Hello,

On 11/22/12 8:51 AM, Uri Shacked wrote:

Hi,

 

>> Btw, is the reload time constant now? Even if you run couple of times?

 

yes, the reload time is constant - 56 sec. i tested for 100 reloads in an hour and it was OK.

ok - it's 56sec or 36sec?

 

>> What are the values for 'kamctl mi get_statistics shmem:'?

 

i configured kamailio to start with 4Gb and after reload the shmem (real_used) take around 30% of it.

but, after 20 reloads it grows in 1%. so, after the 100 reloads the real_used take around 34%-35% of shmem.

i made the choise to compile again with f_malloc and not use mem_join. the reloads are faster, it uses less real_size (12% and not 30%) and the increasment of it is around 1% for 5 reloads (i do 5 reloads a week). i will keep track on it and update.

 

thanks a lot.

 

Btw, what do you think? would you use f_malloc with no mem_join or q_malloc with join?

Can you try with master branch? I switched to q_malloc with no debug info. That means the overhead should be lower and the joining faster.

You can do it also with 3.3, you have to edit Makefile.defs:
- be sure MEMDBG=0
- replace the next block:

ifeq ($(MEMDBG), 1)
    C_DEFS+= -DDBG_QM_MALLOC
    C_DEFS+= -DMEM_JOIN_FREE
else
    C_DEFS+= -DF_MALLOC
    C_DEFS+= -DMEM_JOIN_FREE
endif

with:

ifeq ($(MEMDBG), 1)
    C_DEFS+= -DDBG_QM_MALLOC
    C_DEFS+= -DMEM_JOIN_FREE
else
    C_DEFS+= -DMEM_JOIN_FREE
endif

Practically is removal of line     C_DEFS+= -DF_MALLOC

Then recompile and reinstall..

Cheers,
Daniel

 

BR,

Uri

 

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

On 11/21/12 1:33 PM, Uri Shacked wrote:

Hi,

 

I recompiled with MEMDBG=1 and installed.

here are the results for reloading 5 million rows with MTREE:

 

mem_join=1 -->takes 56 seconds and the real_used_size of shmem is around 1.2Gb.

mem_join=0 --> takes 10 seconds and the real_used_size of shmem is around 2Gb

does it seems normal?

56 seconds is a lot of time......

the join is done for the free operation, meaning that most of the time is spent when freeing the old tree from memory. The new values will be used after loading the database records, then the old tree is destroyed (this involves the join operation). Also, the sip routing is not affected, loading the new records and destroying old memory tree is done in the MI/RPC process.

In other words, while the MI/RPC process takes care of loading new data and destroying the old one, the SIP routing is not affected at all.

Even when the reload command is executed, the old tree is used until all the records are loaded in a new tree. At that moment, the pointer to the active tree is changed from the old tree to the new tree (a very simple sequence of assignments, very fast). Routing will use the new tree and the Mi/RPC process starts destroying the old tree.

 

by the way, when the f_malloc was used, the size of the real_used shmem was twice smaller.

The overhead when storing small values is significant for q_malloc, each fragment keeping references (pointers) to file name and line where it was allocated and freed. In addition it keeps information to get to previews and next fragment, resulting in faster join.

It is some space to improve, in order to make less overhead (like a compile time option not to keep info about file and line of malloc/free). I will think about what can be done for the next release.

Btw, is the reload time constant now? Even if you run couple of times?

What are the values for 'kamctl mi get_statistics shmem:'?

Cheers,
Daniel

 

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

On 11/20/12 7:34 PM, Uri Shacked wrote:

Hi,

 

can you be a litle more specific of the steps of the install and where do i make the changes?

in the source tree, edit the file Makefile.defs and set:

MEMDBG=1

then run:

make all
make install

some words of what is the diff between f_malloc and q_malloc will be great :-).

q_malloc is more debugging purposes, keeping more information for each chunk, therefore the overhead is a bit higher than with f_malloc, but because keeps more details, it is faster to find the fragments that can be joined.

Cheers,
Daniel

 

thanks,

Uri

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

ok, I will look over it. At this moment the f_malloc (which is enabled for 3.3) has a pretty inefficient mem join implementation, can you try with q_malloc? Edit Makefile.defs and set:

MEMDBG=1

Then compile and install.

The join operation should be faster, let's see if you get blocking issues with this one.

Cheers,
Daniel

On 11/20/12 2:57 PM, Uri Shacked wrote:

Daniel hi,

 

I attached 2 txt files.

One with mem_join=1, the other with mem_join=0, and the info you asked for.

Let me know if it is OK.

 

Thanks,

Uri

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

if you set memjoin to 0, do you see any difference?

Can you try again (with memjoin 1 as well as 0) and send the output of:

kamctl mi get_statistics shmem:

before executing the reload commands?

When it gets to 100%, can you see which process is using the cpu and attach to it with:

gdb /path/to/kamailio PID

then do:

bt full

and send output here?

Cheers,
Daniel

On 11/18/12 4:09 PM, Uri Shacked wrote:

After some testing I notice the following:

First reload of 5 million records after kamailio started took about 9 sec.

Second reload (4 minutes after the first one) took 60 sec.

The third one (again about 4 minutes after the secind) got kamailio to use 100% cpu and after 13 minutes! i killed it.....

 

I can understand that the memory manger works harder, still, any ideas on how to use mem_join and keep on reloading data.

(in real life our data loads 5 million records once a day when almost no traffic. still after a few days it stops...)

 

Thanks,

Uri

 

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Uri Shacked <ushacked@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I am using MTREE and DIALPLAN modules to load lots of info to kamailio. (6 million rows).

When kamailio was running with 3.2.1 (no mem_join=1 option), the used size was increasing but the process of loading the data was fast eanough.

I upgraded to 3.3.2 and set mem_join=1. Now the loading process take about 10 time longer and sometimes stops kamailio from responding to traffic.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Uri

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