20 Jun
2012
20 Jun
'12
6:27 p.m.
Dave.
Understandably. But my point was missed if you think that anyone here is
trying to monopolize on the list please do understand that they usually
"contribute" to the project. Besides they are responsible for making
kamailio what is today. All so you can benefit. To say that there rates are
outrageous is an insult to the great software your going to use. You should
look at the overall value that the software provides and calculate how much
you saved by nit having to build it yourself for the last 10yrz yourself.
Once you put it in to perspective its really a very good value to use a
seasoned developer on the list.
I am sure they can respect your budget but equally respect their time and
contribution.
On Jun 20, 2012 6:13 PM, "copycall" <dave(a)copycall.com> wrote:
david,
invariably, this happens on most open source projects and lists.
a few of developers begin to think all the roads lead through them.
and, they are out today to protect their turf
so, they start with the barber-shop membership, pseudo-licensing, and a
separate list: the gatekeeping begins.
i have contacted some of the "developers" on the list over the last 18-24
months about other projects.
their pricing was outrageous for a small service provider and the specific
project, other alternatives had to be found.
i concluded they were looking for the "home run" client, an att or verizon.
it's the same today, a small innocuous job elicits the mocking, compulsive
rule citations, and in your case, a slighting of all the kamailio users who
are not on the developer's list.
maybe you are right, maybe no one can do this job but a developer on the
list. obviously, if this is the case, money will not be exchanged.
however, not one developer has offered their services at any price. i will
welcome these proposals.
maybe some users do not want to be on the developers list, or they are not
ready, or have the time at the moment. but, maybe they want to do a small
job to see where it leads, or for fun, or they need a few extra bucks.
i don't mind the possible risk in giving someone a chance.
regarding the pricing you mentioned, my job as a buyer is to get the best
value for my money. but, thanks for your price list.
since several people have already offered their services, i think you are
a bit misinformed about the competitive marketplace.
if your goal is to grow the number of service providers using kamailio,
you have employed an odd strategy to implement it.
dave
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, David <david(a)styleflare.com> wrote:
To chime in here,
On behalf of the professional developers on the list, it seems "a guy
giving a try" may get you stated but someone with experience will get you
there faster with a more predictable result.
I would think the going rate today for an experienced kamailio developer
is about $150/hr US. its possible someone in a developing country on odesk
will try and charge less like $60 USD which is the equivalent of someone
here charging $1500/hr, but they most probably dont have 8-10 years
experience, and also a very high probability they don't contribute to the
community. Its also more than likely they wont finish the project or get
you much past whats available to you for FREE on the WIKI.
You have to realize professionals charge professional rates, seeing that
it was "Alex bashing", If you actually search the mailing list, Alex
happens to answer many difficult questions for users free of charge. So if
you think Alex is getting rich quick of this list, your obviously very
fresh to the list.
Your certainly welcome to post a more specific question on the list like
how come my server only processes 1 cps...
I am sure the community will be very eager to help.
Good luck on your project, if you do happen to succeed please inform the
list, we would be happy to welcome your star developer into the community.
All the best.
On 6/20/12 3:28 PM, copycall wrote:
alex,
if it offended you, then i apologize for telling you to "get a pair".
well, i have received several offers to do what i am looking for, not all
at my asking price, which you think is too low.
maybe some kamailio users don't consider themselves developers, but are
still interested in trying something new.
i am willing to give someone an opportunity, including you.
dave
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Fred Posner <fred(a)teamforrest.com>wrote;wrote:
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On 06/20/2012 02:38 PM, Fred Posner wrote:
> I know a great bakery that can offer dessert kamailio pricing.
> Generally, $6/portion starting.
What's the going rate for the Millenium Falcon cake these days? :-)
They start at $250 and increase by size. =)
Death Stars are much cheaper. =)
With best regards,
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