But isn't there enough info in the acc table to "fake" some BYEs to the end-points? I would send 2 pairs of BYEs. One pair would go to the gateway and ser faking that it came from the client. The other pair would go to the client and ser faking that it came from the gateway. This hack should be outside of ser, i.e. a billing system realize that there is no money left, checks the acc table for callids, tags etc, generates the BYEs and wait for call completion to show up in acc. Or maybe just make the gateway close the call with a BYE and then update the acc table. ser don't need to know as it is not dialogue-stateful. The client will eventually hang-up by himself. a hack, I know, But the alternative is a integrated real-time proxy and billing system and that costs $$$s. But a b2bua is also a hack... /hans 2005-02-10 kl. 19.45 skrev Marian Dumitru:

acc table does not contain enough information to generate BYE -- CSeq is missing. You would also need to update the information in the table with every mid-dialog request (re-INVITE, for example). Jan. On 10-02 23:14, Hans Eriksson wrote: >But isn't there enough info in the acc table to "fake" some BYEs to the >end-points? > >I would send 2 pairs of BYEs. One pair would go to the gateway and ser >faking that it came from the client. The other pair would go to the >client and ser faking that it came from the gateway. This hack should >be outside of ser, i.e. a billing system realize that there is no money >left, checks the acc table for callids, tags etc, generates the BYEs >and wait for call completion to show up in acc. > >Or maybe just make the gateway close the call with a BYE and then >update the acc table. ser don't need to know as it is not >dialogue-stateful. The client will eventually hang-up by himself. > >a hack, I know, But the alternative is a integrated real-time proxy and >billing system and that costs $$$s. > >But a b2bua is also a hack... > >/hans > > >2005-02-10 kl. 19.45 skrev Marian Dumitru: > > >>Hi Tom, >> >>SER is transaction statefull, not dialog/call statefull; it has not >>the ability to terminate a call in progress. For this you need a b2bua >>(like vovida) >> >>Best regards, >>Marian >> >>Tom Gaudasinski wrote: >> >>>Greetings, >>> Another question from me. I need to be able to liberally >>>disconnect a call that's in progress at any time. Is there any way to >>>do this. I want to implement a pseudo prepaid billing, and I need >>>something that will allow for call termination once credits have been >>>used up. Is there any way i can send SER a message or anything else? >>>Or maybe set a timer for maximum call duration so that the call will >>>be killed after it passes? >>>Thank you. >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Serusers mailing list >>>serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >> >>-- >>Voice System >>http://www.voice-system.ro >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Serusers mailing list >>serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >> > >_______________________________________________ >Serusers mailing list >serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers

Hi Tom, SER is transaction statefull, not dialog/call statefull; it has not the ability to terminate a call in progress. For this you need a b2bua (like vovida) Best regards, Marian Tom Gaudasinski wrote:

Hi Tom, SER is transaction statefull, not dialog/call statefull; it has not the ability to terminate a call in progress. For this you need a b2bua (like vovida) Best regards, Marian Tom Gaudasinski wrote: -- Voice System http://www.voice-system.ro _______________________________________________ Serusers mailing list serusers(a)lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers

Marian can you suggest me a b2bua application. As I know vovida's one latest version is two years old... Thanks, Pavel Siderov ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Dumitru" <marian.dumitru(a)voice-sistem.ro> To: "Tom Gaudasinski" <cetus(a)internode.on.net> Cc: <serusers(a)lists.iptel.org> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [Serusers] Disconnecting a call. _______________________________________________ Serusers mailing list serusers(a)lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers

I know. It's asterisk. But natively it not support radius and is not B2BUA. So, it's my try to make b2bua from asterisk.

It's patched asterisk and some AGI script for it. What it support? Full vovida's b2bua radius emulation, radius failover, LCR, Call failover, Codec based routing and much other things that can be useful. Sorry, but I did not made good patch to Asterisk (it's patched stable branch CVS). Works in production, servs near 20 concurent calls, but sure can serve more. Sorry, no documentation yet, and I had not enough time to make real easy installation, (maybe someone want's to do it? ;) ) http://www.yes.net.ua/fordown/b2bua_asterisk_v0.1.tgz