Re: [Serusers] why combine ser with asterisk

Hm, I don't agree with that comparison ;-) Asterisk is a PBX, SEMS is a platform for specific applications. There are some common pre-developed applications that easily can be set up (like a conference bridge, play announcements etc). However, if you need a PBX with lots of features, you don't start with SEMS. I would rather compare Asterisk to a pick-up truck and SEMS to the Porsche. Use the truck for pretty much any work, but the Porsche is made for speed... :-) Using Asterisk as only a conference bridge and playing announcements is like using the pick-up truck to move your 12-piece china... g-) SIP wrote: > Offers them? Yes. Offers them in a clean, friendly, usable package? Not > so much yet. > > SEMS has raw capability, but if you want it to do many of the things > Asterisk can do, you need to know how to code that yourself, or you're > going to be digging about the code for documentation on features (since > the current docs are not the world's greatest). > > Don't get me wrong, SEMS has its place, and is a constantly evolving > work of art (we use SEMS for several things in our environment), but > comparing SEMS to Asterisk is a bit like comparing a bunch of car parts > to a Porsche. > > N. > > > Fredrik Lundmark wrote: > > >> I'm still learning myself, but SEMS (iptel.org/sems) seems to offer >> many of the media- and/or b2bua-functions that Asterisk do. >> >> ///Fredrik >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "SIP" <sip(a)arcdiv.com> >> To: "Nhadie" <nhadie(a)tbgi.net.ph> >> Cc: <asterisk-users(a)lists.digium.com>om>; <serusers(a)lists.iptel.org> >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [Serusers] why combine ser with asterisk >> >> >> >> >>> Asterisk is an excellent PBX system, and makes a very good endpoint in >>> the SIP chain for all sorts of things -- IVR systems, voicemail >>> applications, automated messages, etc. >>> >>> It has an extremely well-written CDR engine, so many people mesh it with >>> billing applications to produce accurate accounting information. It also >>> is fully aware of the media stream, which means it's capable of cutting >>> off a call mid-stream, injecting audio into the call, etc, etc. >>> >>> Programming for Asterisk addons can be easily done in just about any >>> language, and it meshes well with the overall structure. Programming for >>> SER is... not so simple. >>> >>> As for running them both on the same box, the biggest problem would be >>> resources. Unlike SER, Asterisk is not designed to be a carrier-grade >>> SIP proxy. If you're actually proxying the media stream, you'd be >>> hard-pressed to squeeze more than 150 simultaneous calls out of Asterisk >>> on even the beefiest of hardware. Add SER to the same box, and you will >>> quickly run into resource problems in medium-sized environments. It also >>> doesn't have a lot of the SIP proxy functionality that SER has. >>> >>> If you're careful, you can configure Asterisk NOT to handle the media >>> stream and still use it for prepaid solutions (using astcc or >>> asterisk-b2bua), and this will save you bandwidth (but you'll still >>> likely run into NAT issues that need to be dealt with somehow) and still >>> let you use Asterisk as an in-between point. >>> >>> Together, Asterisk and SER make a very powerful combination for >>> providing a full suite of services to clientele, and each plays well off >>> the other's strengths. >>> >>> N. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nhadie wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> What's the advantage of combining ser with asterisk? I always see >>>> comments like using ser with asterisk is a very good solution etc. etc. >>>> the thing i liked with ser is that it does not do codec translation, >>>> which saves me cpu usage and also bandwidth. if i combine it with >>>> asterisk, would it not use codec translation? >>>> >>>> i also read that there is also a problem when ser and asterisk is >>>> run on >>>> the same machine, why is it so? >>>> if use prepaid billing solution for asterisk like astcc, would i >>>> then be >>>> able to provide prepaid service? >>>> >>>> soryy for asking too much, i'd just like to really understand it. Thank >>>> You in advanced. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nhadie >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Serusers mailing list >>>> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Serusers mailing list >>> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org >>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > Serusers mailing list > Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org > http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers > > > >