Hi,
We have 2 Kamailio 3.0.3 servers that has been running with carrierroute for about 2 years without any problems. They have 128 MB shared memory and
modparam("carrierroute", "config_source", "db") modparam("carrierroute", "db_url", "<DBURL>") modparam("carrierroute", "fetch_rows", 500)
The carrierroute table is about 91K lines and have been growing slowly.
Suddenly we get this ERROR: carrierroute [cr_data.c:585]: could not allocate shared memory from available pool after a few "kamctl cr reload".
I increased the shared memory to 256 MB but with the same result. I have now increased it to 512 MB and it seems to work better now.
I have noticed this. After a restart the shmem counters is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28486752 shmem:real_used_size = 40147128 shmem:max_used_size = 41135424 shmem:free_size = 496723784 shmem:fragments = 555
And after the first "kamctl cr reload" it is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28619016 shmem:real_used_size = 51842768 shmem:max_used_size = 76993616 shmem:free_size = 485028144 shmem:fragments = 722063
Notice the increase in fragments. Sequentials "kamctl cr reload" does not change the fragments allot.
Any ideas?
Hello,
On 6/8/12 2:09 PM, Morten Isaksen wrote:
Hi,
We have 2 Kamailio 3.0.3 servers that has been running with carrierroute for about 2 years without any problems. They have 128 MB shared memory and
modparam("carrierroute", "config_source", "db") modparam("carrierroute", "db_url", "<DBURL>") modparam("carrierroute", "fetch_rows", 500)
The carrierroute table is about 91K lines and have been growing slowly.
Suddenly we get this ERROR: carrierroute [cr_data.c:585]: could not allocate shared memory from available pool after a few "kamctl cr reload".
I increased the shared memory to 256 MB but with the same result. I have now increased it to 512 MB and it seems to work better now.
I have noticed this. After a restart the shmem counters is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28486752 shmem:real_used_size = 40147128 shmem:max_used_size = 41135424 shmem:free_size = 496723784 shmem:fragments = 555
And after the first "kamctl cr reload" it is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28619016 shmem:real_used_size = 51842768 shmem:max_used_size = 76993616 shmem:free_size = 485028144 shmem:fragments = 722063
Notice the increase in fragments. Sequentials "kamctl cr reload" does not change the fragments allot.
Any ideas?
be aware that a reload command usually requires at least twice memory size than the size needed to store the records. That's because the old structure in memory is kept until the database records are all loaded and packed in shared memory in a new structure. Then the old and new structures are swapped for routing usage and the old one is deallocated. I havent really checked for carrier route module, but it is how happens with the other modules that do caching (dispatcher, mtree, permissions, ...).
So if you are at the edge of available memory for storing cr rules, then could happen to get out of memory easy, as shared memory can be used for other tasks at that time. If number of fragments don't increase even with 512MB, then this is likely what happens.
Regarding the fragmentation, new release has options for doing defragmentation automatically:
https://www.kamailio.org/wiki/cookbooks/devel/core#mem_join
The code was actually pretty much all there, so I guess backporting will not be big task if you want to do it on your local copy.
Also, testing the devel with this feature and giving feedback will be really appreciated, I had no time to play with it and large number of records. The feature is off by default, you have to set mem_join=1 in config to get it on.
Cheers, Daniel
On 06/08/2012 03:09 PM, Morten Isaksen wrote:
Hi,
Hello,
We have 2 Kamailio 3.0.3 servers that has been running with carrierroute for about 2 years without any problems. They have 128 MB shared memory and
The shared memory is too little. Keep in mind that this is shared by all children, so it will not increase with the creating of more children. Also keep in mind that the Linux memory alocator (like for mmap) is lazy, so allocating 1 GB by the application will not use 1 GB of RAM, but instead pages will be delivered to the application as it needs it. To force allocation there is the shm_force_alloc core parameter to really force allocation of memory by the system bye writing 0's to the memory reagion. Also there is the mlock_pages parameter that will force the allocated memory pages to not be swappable.
modparam("carrierroute", "config_source", "db") modparam("carrierroute", "db_url", "<DBURL>") modparam("carrierroute", "fetch_rows", 500)
Fetch_rows is affects the private memory used when loading data from a data source that has the fetch result capability. This decreases the private memory requirements for reloading the table.
The carrierroute table is about 91K lines and have been growing slowly.
From experience this takes around 60-70 MB of shared memory to hold it. This depends a lot based on system (32 vs 64 for example), structure etc.
Suddenly we get this ERROR: carrierroute [cr_data.c:585]: could not allocate shared memory from available pool after a few "kamctl cr reload".
I increased the shared memory to 256 MB but with the same result. I have now increased it to 512 MB and it seems to work better now.
I have noticed this. After a restart the shmem counters is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28486752 shmem:real_used_size = 40147128 shmem:max_used_size = 41135424 shmem:free_size = 496723784 shmem:fragments = 555
And after the first "kamctl cr reload" it is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28619016 shmem:real_used_size = 51842768 shmem:max_used_size = 76993616 shmem:free_size = 485028144 shmem:fragments = 722063
I would worry if the used_size or real_used_size would have changed a lot. The difference from used_size to real_used_size is due to fragmentation but this will be manageable if the number of fragments is kept constant. As Daniel suggested, for carrierroute reload we need double the amount of memory as it holds the old and the new tables until it swaps the pointers (so that the applications doesn't block when reloading the table).
Notice the increase in fragments. Sequentials "kamctl cr reload" does not change the fragments allot.
Any ideas?
I would recommend using kamailio with at least 1 GB of shared memory. Also monitor the used_size and real_used_size if they are increasing in a `weird` way. The real_used_size might increase because of fragmentation during cr_reload_route commands, but it should not fail, as chunks will be reallocated to other usages of the command.
Cheers, Marius
Hi Daniel and Marius,
Thanks for your feedback.
I hope I have solved the issue. Due to a bug in the perl script that generated the route table some destinations got added instead of updated to the table. The result of this bug was that about 50 destinations each was 1082 times in the route table.
/Morten
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Marius Zbihlei marius.zbihlei@1and1.ro wrote:
On 06/08/2012 03:09 PM, Morten Isaksen wrote:
Hi,
Hello,
We have 2 Kamailio 3.0.3 servers that has been running with carrierroute for about 2 years without any problems. They have 128 MB shared memory and
The shared memory is too little. Keep in mind that this is shared by all children, so it will not increase with the creating of more children. Also keep in mind that the Linux memory alocator (like for mmap) is lazy, so allocating 1 GB by the application will not use 1 GB of RAM, but instead pages will be delivered to the application as it needs it. To force allocation there is the shm_force_alloc core parameter to really force allocation of memory by the system bye writing 0's to the memory reagion. Also there is the mlock_pages parameter that will force the allocated memory pages to not be swappable.
modparam("carrierroute", "config_source", "db") modparam("carrierroute", "db_url", "<DBURL>") modparam("carrierroute", "fetch_rows", 500)
Fetch_rows is affects the private memory used when loading data from a data source that has the fetch result capability. This decreases the private memory requirements for reloading the table.
The carrierroute table is about 91K lines and have been growing slowly.
From experience this takes around 60-70 MB of shared memory to hold it. This depends a lot based on system (32 vs 64 for example), structure etc.
Suddenly we get this ERROR: carrierroute [cr_data.c:585]: could not allocate shared memory from available pool after a few "kamctl cr reload".
I increased the shared memory to 256 MB but with the same result. I have now increased it to 512 MB and it seems to work better now.
I have noticed this. After a restart the shmem counters is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28486752 shmem:real_used_size = 40147128 shmem:max_used_size = 41135424 shmem:free_size = 496723784 shmem:fragments = 555
And after the first "kamctl cr reload" it is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28619016 shmem:real_used_size = 51842768 shmem:max_used_size = 76993616 shmem:free_size = 485028144 shmem:fragments = 722063
I would worry if the used_size or real_used_size would have changed a lot. The difference from used_size to real_used_size is due to fragmentation but this will be manageable if the number of fragments is kept constant. As Daniel suggested, for carrierroute reload we need double the amount of memory as it holds the old and the new tables until it swaps the pointers (so that the applications doesn't block when reloading the table).
Notice the increase in fragments. Sequentials "kamctl cr reload" does not change the fragments allot.
Any ideas?
I would recommend using kamailio with at least 1 GB of shared memory. Also monitor the used_size and real_used_size if they are increasing in a `weird` way. The real_used_size might increase because of fragmentation during cr_reload_route commands, but it should not fail, as chunks will be reallocated to other usages of the command.
Cheers, Marius
-- Zbihlei Marius
Head of Linux Development Services Romania
1&1 Internet Development srl Tel KA: 754-9152 Str Mircea Eliade 18 Tel RO: +40-31-223-9152 Sect 1, Bucuresti mailto: marius.zbihlei@1and1.ro 71295, Romania
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Hello,
On 6/11/12 10:03 AM, Morten Isaksen wrote:
Hi Daniel and Marius,
Thanks for your feedback.
I hope I have solved the issue. Due to a bug in the perl script that generated the route table some destinations got added instead of updated to the table. The result of this bug was that about 50 destinations each was 1082 times in the route table.
ok, good that you found it!
Cheers, Daniel
/Morten
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Marius Zbihlei marius.zbihlei@1and1.ro wrote:
On 06/08/2012 03:09 PM, Morten Isaksen wrote:
Hi,
Hello,
We have 2 Kamailio 3.0.3 servers that has been running with carrierroute for about 2 years without any problems. They have 128 MB shared memory and
The shared memory is too little. Keep in mind that this is shared by all children, so it will not increase with the creating of more children. Also keep in mind that the Linux memory alocator (like for mmap) is lazy, so allocating 1 GB by the application will not use 1 GB of RAM, but instead pages will be delivered to the application as it needs it. To force allocation there is the shm_force_alloc core parameter to really force allocation of memory by the system bye writing 0's to the memory reagion. Also there is the mlock_pages parameter that will force the allocated memory pages to not be swappable.
modparam("carrierroute", "config_source", "db") modparam("carrierroute", "db_url", "<DBURL>") modparam("carrierroute", "fetch_rows", 500)
Fetch_rows is affects the private memory used when loading data from a data source that has the fetch result capability. This decreases the private memory requirements for reloading the table.
The carrierroute table is about 91K lines and have been growing slowly.
From experience this takes around 60-70 MB of shared memory to hold it. This depends a lot based on system (32 vs 64 for example), structure etc.
Suddenly we get this ERROR: carrierroute [cr_data.c:585]: could not allocate shared memory from available pool after a few "kamctl cr reload".
I increased the shared memory to 256 MB but with the same result. I have now increased it to 512 MB and it seems to work better now.
I have noticed this. After a restart the shmem counters is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28486752 shmem:real_used_size = 40147128 shmem:max_used_size = 41135424 shmem:free_size = 496723784 shmem:fragments = 555
And after the first "kamctl cr reload" it is like this:
shmem:total_size = 536870912 shmem:used_size = 28619016 shmem:real_used_size = 51842768 shmem:max_used_size = 76993616 shmem:free_size = 485028144 shmem:fragments = 722063
I would worry if the used_size or real_used_size would have changed a lot. The difference from used_size to real_used_size is due to fragmentation but this will be manageable if the number of fragments is kept constant. As Daniel suggested, for carrierroute reload we need double the amount of memory as it holds the old and the new tables until it swaps the pointers (so that the applications doesn't block when reloading the table).
Notice the increase in fragments. Sequentials "kamctl cr reload" does not change the fragments allot.
Any ideas?
I would recommend using kamailio with at least 1 GB of shared memory. Also monitor the used_size and real_used_size if they are increasing in a `weird` way. The real_used_size might increase because of fragmentation during cr_reload_route commands, but it should not fail, as chunks will be reallocated to other usages of the command.
Cheers, Marius
-- Zbihlei Marius
Head of Linux Development Services Romania
1&1 Internet Development srl Tel KA: 754-9152 Str Mircea Eliade 18 Tel RO: +40-31-223-9152 Sect 1, Bucuresti mailto: marius.zbihlei@1and1.ro 71295, Romania
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