Hi,

Directly from Cisco or not, I'm also (ssshhttt) a SER user...:-)

The list is correct with respect to SIP, but it depends on the call agent.

7905, 7912, 7940 and 7960 have a SIP firmware that can be installed and used independently from any other gear/software. Well, you need at least a TFTP server and possibly a SIP proxy/registrar/gateway to talk to.

The others can run SIP when under control of CCM5.0. There is no "independent" SIP firmware for the 7941,7961,7970,7971. Yet.

cheers, Jan

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 Cesc kneaded and moulded:

|wow ... directly from cisco :) | |so, the list of 79xx phones which can be upgraded to sip is correct? |>>7905, 7911, 7912, 7940, 7941, 7960, 7961, 7970 and 7971 | |Tks! | |Cesc | |On 4/12/06, Jan Bollen jbollen@cisco.com wrote: |> |> |> |> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 Gould, Aaron kneaded and moulded: |> | |> |oh, cisco phone, ummm, yeah i put the 5 files in a tftp server i think it was ... |> | |> |OS79XX |> |P003-08-2-00.bin |> |P003-08-2-00.sbn |> |P003-08-2-00.loads |> |P003-08-2-00.sb2 |> |> which is definitely not correct: |> |> - if you're running version 7 or higher there is no need for the |> OS79XX.TXT file |> |> - the .bin and .sbn are the unsigned and signed images containing the |> universal application loader. |> |> - the .loads and .sb2 files must be coded P0S3... and not P003. |> |> I know, it is confusing, but that is the way it is. |> |> cheers, |> Jan |> |> |> | |> |and it loaded up a new universal application loader into the phones....."...2000-2006" |> | |> |then they loaded their sip firmware ....blinky lights during upgrade.....now they boot up and go through a decision tree to find a valid config file which i haven't been able to figure out yet...... |> | |> |aaron |> | |> |________________________________ |> | |> |From: serusers-bounces@lists.iptel.org on behalf of Cesc |> |Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 6:07 AM |> |To: SER-Users |> |Subject: [Serusers] cisco sip phones? |> | |> | |> | |> |Hi, |> | |> |I am looking for experiences with cisco (series 79xx) phones with sip |> |... can it be installed (sip) on all of them? or just a few models |> |(7960 ... or 7970)? |> | |> |Tks! |> | |> |Cesc |> | |> |_______________________________________________ |> |Serusers mailing list |> |serusers@lists.iptel.org |> |http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers |> | |> | |> |_______________________________________________ |> |Serusers mailing list |> |serusers@lists.iptel.org |> |http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers |> | |> |

Hello Jiri,

Most probably my expression 'under control' is too harsh. It means that the SIP firmware of those phones is made so that you can manage those phones from CCM 5.0 as you would do with SCCP phones with Call Manager 4.x and earlier: upgrade/downgrade, enabling/disabling of features, download of softkeys, dialplan files.

Today there is not yet a SIP firmware for the 79[11|41|61|70|71] phones that allows you to use them as the 79[05|12|40|60] today , i.e. independently from any brand of SIP proxy, registrar or redirect server. It is also possible to use non-Cisco SIP phones with CCM5.0

kind regards, Jan

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 Jiri Kuthan kneaded and moulded:

|Hi Jan, | |I am just curious -- what does it mean exactly it speaks SIP only under CCM5.0? | |Thanks! | |-jiri | |At 15:40 12/04/2006, Jan Bollen wrote: | |> Hi, |> |> Directly from Cisco or not, I'm also (ssshhttt) a SER user...:-) |> |> The list is correct with respect to SIP, but it depends on the call |>agent. |> |> 7905, 7912, 7940 and 7960 have a SIP firmware that can be installed |>and used independently from any other gear/software. Well, you need at |>least a TFTP server and possibly a SIP proxy/registrar/gateway to talk |>to. |> |> The others can run SIP when under control of CCM5.0. There is no |>"independent" SIP firmware for the 7941,7961,7970,7971. Yet. |> |> cheers, |> Jan |> |> |> |>On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 Cesc kneaded and moulded: |> |>|wow ... directly from cisco :) |>| |>|so, the list of 79xx phones which can be upgraded to sip is correct? |>|>>7905, 7911, 7912, 7940, 7941, 7960, 7961, 7970 and 7971 |>| |>|Tks! |>| |>|Cesc |>| |>|On 4/12/06, Jan Bollen jbollen@cisco.com wrote: |>|> |>|> |>|> |>|> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 Gould, Aaron kneaded and moulded: |>|> | |>|> |oh, cisco phone, ummm, yeah i put the 5 files in a tftp server i think it was ... |>|> | |>|> |OS79XX |>|> |P003-08-2-00.bin |>|> |P003-08-2-00.sbn |>|> |P003-08-2-00.loads |>|> |P003-08-2-00.sb2 |>|> |>|> which is definitely not correct: |>|> |>|> - if you're running version 7 or higher there is no need for the |>|> OS79XX.TXT file |>|> |>|> - the .bin and .sbn are the unsigned and signed images containing the |>|> universal application loader. |>|> |>|> - the .loads and .sb2 files must be coded P0S3... and not P003. |>|> |>|> I know, it is confusing, but that is the way it is. |>|> |>|> cheers, |>|> Jan |>|> |>|> |>|> | |>|> |and it loaded up a new universal application loader into the phones....."...2000-2006" |>|> | |>|> |then they loaded their sip firmware ....blinky lights during upgrade.....now they boot up and go through a decision tree to find a valid config file which i haven't been able to figure out yet...... |>|> | |>|> |aaron |>|> | |>|> |________________________________ |>|> | |>|> |From: serusers-bounces@lists.iptel.org on behalf of Cesc |>|> |Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 6:07 AM |>|> |To: SER-Users |>|> |Subject: [Serusers] cisco sip phones? |>|> | |>|> | |>|> | |>|> |Hi, |>|> | |>|> |I am looking for experiences with cisco (series 79xx) phones with sip |>|> |... can it be installed (sip) on all of them? or just a few models |>|> |(7960 ... or 7970)? |>|> | |>|> |Tks! |>|> | |>|> |Cesc |>|> | |>|> |_______________________________________________ |>|> |Serusers mailing list |>|> |serusers@lists.iptel.org |>|> |http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers |>|> | |>|> | |>|> |_______________________________________________ |>|> |Serusers mailing list |>|> |serusers@lists.iptel.org |>|> |http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers |>|> | |>|> |>| |> |>_______________________________________________ |>Serusers mailing list |>serusers@lists.iptel.org |>http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers | |-- |Jiri Kuthan http://iptel.org/~jiri/ |