I don't know the default time between subscribes (but it should not be more than a few mins) - but use ethereal to see the network traffic. Also note that there is another bug with messenger 5.0 - it tries to send an instant message with the INVITE method instead of MESSAGE method (as per the standard). So instant messaging does not work with 5.0. Like someone suggested, use 4.6. But I prefer using linphone and kphone - they are very much reliable.

Dhiraj

-----Original Message----- From: Morris, Scott [mailto:MorrisS@orau.gov] Sent: 04 December 2003 19:30 To: Bhuyan,D,Dhiraj,XVR3 R Subject: RE: [Serusers] Windows Messenger 5.0

What is that amount of time between subscribes? They never seem to update no matter how long I leave them up.

Scott Morris Enterprise Network Engineer DOE - ORAU / ORISE 865-576-4672

-----Original Message----- From: dhiraj.2.bhuyan@bt.com [mailto:dhiraj.2.bhuyan@bt.com] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:25 PM To: Morris, Scott Subject: RE: [Serusers] Windows Messenger 5.0

Maybe you missed my reply. Should answer your question - appending it again.

When UserA sends a SUBSCRIBE message to UserB, if UserB has UserA in its list, it sends back a OK message. However it is not smart enough to update the status of UserA (to online) on its own list. It just waits for its turn to send the SUBSCRIBE message to UserA and then only if it gets an OK response back from UserA will it update the status of UserA on its list. So if you let UserA and UserB to be both online for a certain duration of time ( == time between two SUBSCRIBE attempts atleast), you will see the correct status. Another stupid MS implememtation.

Dhiraj

-----Original Message----- From: Morris, Scott [mailto:MorrisS@orau.gov] Sent: 04 December 2003 13:32 To: Morris, Scott; 'Mario Kolberg'; serusers@lists.iptel.org Subject: RE: [Serusers] Windows Messenger 5.0

Let me rephrase. I don't think it is SER. And I do agree it is Messenger. When UserA signs out, the update is immediately seen by UserB that UserA is offline. So, where is the update failing?

Scott Morris Enterprise Network Engineer DOE - ORAU / ORISE 865-576-4672

-----Original Message----- From: Morris, Scott Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:29 AM To: 'Mario Kolberg'; serusers@lists.iptel.org Subject: RE: [Serusers] Windows Messenger 5.0

I can't say it's a messenger issue. Messenger wants a contact list, and to show you who is online and offline. Your phone doesn't do that. The phone talks to SER to see if the person is signed in. Or does kphone and sipc show users signed in?

Scott Morris Enterprise Network Engineer DOE - ORAU / ORISE 865-576-4672

-----Original Message----- From: Mario Kolberg [mailto:mko@cs.stir.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:47 AM To: Morris, Scott; serusers@lists.iptel.org Subject: Re:[Serusers] Windows Messenger 5.0

I have made exactly the same observation. I treat it as a problem with Messenger as it works fine between two kphone UAs or between sipc and kphone. I'm running ser 0.8.12.

Mario

I have 0.8.1 running on Suse 9.0. It works great with my Zultys phone, Polycom IP 600, and the Helmsen agent. When I try to use Windows Messenger 5.0 I have a slight problem.

UserA signs in. UserB signs in, and sees that UserA is online, and there changes the UserA in the contact list on ONLINE. But UserB never shows as ONLINE on UserA's desktop. So UserA can't call UserB. The update never goes to UserA's desktop. What am I missing here?