Dears; Good day !
is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension number.
My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice mail ... etc)
i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send notify to asterisk .
i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if it is possible to be done.
Regards Ammar
Hello,
On 20.11.17 14:44, Amar Tinawi wrote:
Dears; Good day !
is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension number.
My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice mail ... etc)
i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send notify to asterisk .
i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if it is possible to be done.
not sure if IMS has any relevant requirement here, but using Kamailio with Asterisk is very common. There are several options to integrate the two, for some of them I wrote tutorials available at:
- https://kb.asipto.com/asterisk:index
Cheers, Daniel
Hello, Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg With Regards. Mojtaba
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
On 20.11.17 14:44, Amar Tinawi wrote:
Dears; Good day !
is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension number.
My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice mail ... etc)
i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send notify to asterisk .
i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if it is possible to be done.
not sure if IMS has any relevant requirement here, but using Kamailio with Asterisk is very common. There are several options to integrate the two, for some of them I wrote tutorials available at:
Cheers, Daniel
-- Daniel-Constantin Mierla www.twitter.com/miconda -- www.linkedin.com/in/miconda Kamailio Advanced Training - www.asipto.com Kamailio World Conference - May 14-16, 2018 - www.kamailioworld.com
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Hello, Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg With Regards. Mojtaba
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi amar.tinawi@gmail.com wrote:
Dears; Good day !
is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension number.
My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice mail ... etc)
i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send notify to asterisk .
i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if it is possible to be done.
Regards Ammar
Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List sr-users@lists.kamailio.org https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Hello,
personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.
On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock (one of the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about using Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be released soon.
Cheers, Daniel
On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
Hello, Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg With Regards. Mojtaba
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi amar.tinawi@gmail.com wrote:
Dears; Good day !
is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension number.
My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice mail ... etc)
i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send notify to asterisk .
i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if it is possible to be done.
Regards Ammar
Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List sr-users@lists.kamailio.org https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Thank you Daniel :
Actually i followed your tutorial, but in case of IMS the modifications should be on (my assumption) S-CSCF, in this case all routing block should be routed towards AS ?
i followed also Mr Carsten Bock videos on kamailio World conferences for the years 2015 - 2016 - 2017 and he mentioned clearly that any application that talk sip can operate as an AS, and he mentioned Asterisk and FreeSwitch as an example
Thanks Mojtaba, i followed this video but the video at the end shows that the users still in offline mode after registration, is that right ?
My questions are : - should i configure Asterisk in a way to be AS for kamailio IMS ? - should the users be identified in Asterisk Database in order to make a correlation ? or asterisk can pull users profiles from HSS ? - Do we have to perform any configuration over HSS to identify sh interface with Asterisk ?
if you can send me the Astricon video it would be great
Thanks, Ammar
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla < miconda@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.
On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock (one of the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about using Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be released soon.
Cheers, Daniel
On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
Hello, Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg With Regards. Mojtaba
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi amar.tinawi@gmail.com
wrote:
Dears; Good day !
is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for
the
kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an
extension
number.
My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX
users
to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting,
voice
mail ... etc)
i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to
send
notify to asterisk .
i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont
know if
it is possible to be done.
Regards Ammar
Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List sr-users@lists.kamailio.org https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
-- Daniel-Constantin Mierla www.twitter.com/miconda -- www.linkedin.com/in/miconda Kamailio Advanced Training - www.asipto.com Kamailio World Conference - May 14-16, 2018 - www.kamailioworld.com
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Hello,
Comment inline.
Hope I'm helping,
Ivo
On 11/21/2017 12:32 PM, Amar Tinawi wrote:
Thank you Daniel :
Actually i followed your tutorial, but in case of IMS the modifications should be on (my assumption) S-CSCF, in this case all routing block should be routed towards AS ?
In order to route the call to Asterisk you should define it as AS/MMtel in your HSS. Define proper TP and iFC for the subscriber profiles.
i followed also Mr Carsten Bock videos on kamailio World conferences for the years 2015 - 2016 - 2017 and he mentioned clearly that any application that talk sip can operate as an AS, and he mentionedAsterisk and FreeSwitch as an example Thanks Mojtaba, i followed this video but the video at the end shows that the users still in offline mode after registration, is that right ? My questions are :
- should i configure Asterisk in a way to be AS for kamailio IMS ?
For sure you should configure Asterisk to handle originating and terminating call legs from/to S-CSCF. From Asterisk perspective the easiest way is S-CSCF to be a SIP trunk. (Note that this may not be 100% true and depends on the design)
- should the users be identified in Asterisk Database in order to make
a correlation ? or asterisk can pull users profiles from HSS ?
As far I know there is no DIAMETER/Sh support in Asterisk. Related and to Q below too.
- Do we have to perform any configuration over HSS to identify sh
interface with Asterisk ?
You have 2 options in general here, to have or not subscribers in Asterisk. Easiest way is to not. Assuming that all your subscribers are same from service point of view you can handle everything in routing w/o having any subscriber profile in Asterisk. Second option is a matter of design and there is no simple answer.
Keep in mind that SIP and IMS services differs. When using * or FreeSWITCH as SIP MMtel w/ SIP clients in IMS env, you can relatively easy implement known SIP services. Implementing MMTel IMS services w/ IMS clients is a different story.
if you can send me the Astriconvideo it would be great Thanks, Ammar
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <miconda@gmail.com mailto:miconda@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time. On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock (one of the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about using Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be released soon. Cheers, Daniel On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote: > Hello, > Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk > working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg> > With Regards. Mojtaba > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi <amar.tinawi@gmail.com <mailto:amar.tinawi@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Dears; >> Good day ! >> >> is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the >> kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension >> number. >> >> My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and >> authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users >> to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice >> mail ... etc) >> >> i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user >> register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send >> notify to asterisk . >> >> >> >> i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if >> it is possible to be done. >> >> Regards >> Ammar >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List >> sr-users@lists.kamailio.org <mailto:sr-users@lists.kamailio.org> >> https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users <https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users> >> > > -- Daniel-Constantin Mierla www.twitter.com/miconda <http://www.twitter.com/miconda> -- www.linkedin.com/in/miconda <http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda> Kamailio Advanced Training - www.asipto.com <http://www.asipto.com> Kamailio World Conference - May 14-16, 2018 - www.kamailioworld.com <http://www.kamailioworld.com> _______________________________________________ Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List sr-users@lists.kamailio.org <mailto:sr-users@lists.kamailio.org> https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users <https://lists.kamailio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users>
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Thanks Ivo
I’ll test and report back
Many thanks, and any future note or document will be very pleased
Cheers Ammar
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From: Ivailo Dobrev Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:29 PM To: sr-users@lists.kamailio.org Subject: Re: [SR-Users] Kamailio IMS + Asterisk PBX
Hello, Comment inline. Hope I'm helping, Ivo On 11/21/2017 12:32 PM, Amar Tinawi wrote:
Thank you Daniel :
Actually i followed your tutorial, but in case of IMS the modifications should be on (my assumption) S-CSCF, in this case all routing block should be routed towards AS ?
In order to route the call to Asterisk you should define it as AS/MMtel in your HSS. Define proper TP and iFC for the subscriber profiles.
i followed also Mr Carsten Bock videos on kamailio World conferences for the years 2015 - 2016 - 2017 and he mentioned clearly that any application that talk sip can operate as an AS, and he mentioned Asterisk and FreeSwitch as an example Thanks Mojtaba, i followed this video but the video at the end shows that the users still in offline mode after registration, is that right ? My questions are : - should i configure Asterisk in a way to be AS for kamailio IMS ? For sure you should configure Asterisk to handle originating and terminating call legs from/to S-CSCF. From Asterisk perspective the easiest way is S-CSCF to be a SIP trunk. (Note that this may not be 100% true and depends on the design)
- should the users be identified in Asterisk Database in order to make a correlation ? or asterisk can pull users profiles from HSS ? As far I know there is no DIAMETER/Sh support in Asterisk. Related and to Q below too.
- Do we have to perform any configuration over HSS to identify sh interface with Asterisk ? You have 2 options in general here, to have or not subscribers in Asterisk. Easiest way is to not. Assuming that all your subscribers are same from service point of view you can handle everything in routing w/o having any subscriber profile in Asterisk. Second option is a matter of design and there is no simple answer.
Keep in mind that SIP and IMS services differs. When using * or FreeSWITCH as SIP MMtel w/ SIP clients in IMS env, you can relatively easy implement known SIP services. Implementing MMTel IMS services w/ IMS clients is a different story.
if you can send me the Astricon video it would be great Thanks, Ammar
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla miconda@gmail.com wrote: Hello,
personally I do not have any time these days to search or look at documents/videos/etc... to see what TAS are supposed to be -- a lot of stuff to do for upcoming kamailio 5.1 in the spare time.
On the other hand, at the last edition of Astricon, Carsten Bock (one of the ims extensions developer in kamailio) had a presentation about using Asterisk for IMS -- I had to be at the Kamailio booth in Astricon expo area, so I couldn't attend it -- maybe the videos from Astricon are already published and you can watch it, if not, probably they will be released soon.
Cheers, Daniel
On 21.11.17 09:06, Mojtaba wrote:
Hello, Maybe this link be useful to understanding the concept of Asterisk working as Telephone Application Servers(TAS) in IMS core network. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nVRpzkUbIg With Regards. Mojtaba
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Amar Tinawi amar.tinawi@gmail.com wrote:
Dears; Good day !
is it possible to use Asterisk pbx server as an Application server for the kamailio IMS users ? as if i want to correlate an IMS user with an extension number.
My though is kamailio ims will handle the registration process and authentication and Asterisk will deal with IMS users as they are PBX users to get all asterisk's benefits (call conference, monitoring, waiting, voice mail ... etc)
i'm thinking to integrate Asterisk with S-cscf, and when an IMS user register to the IMS to domain, a trigger will initiate the S-cscf to send notify to asterisk .
i didnt find any solution or tutorial for this procedure, and idont know if it is possible to be done.
Regards Ammar
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-- Daniel-Constantin Mierla www.twitter.com/miconda -- www.linkedin.com/in/miconda Kamailio Advanced Training - www.asipto.com Kamailio World Conference - May 14-16, 2018 - www.kamailioworld.com
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