Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Features - Compliant with SER nathelper module - Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris - Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps - Display active media sessions - Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes - Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session - Flexible design for adding new features
To do list - Run it on separate machine than SER - Log network traffic per domain - Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from:
http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/
The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org
Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com ------------------------------------------------ DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from:
http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/
The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org
Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from: http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
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Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from: http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
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I am also wondering what is the problem with xten and rtp proxy, because I didn't have any problems.
Jan.
On 10-12 12:29, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from: http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
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The problem is that every few seconds there is a gap of half second in the audio stream (quality-wise the conversation is unacceptable) when using Xten softphone X-lite or X-PRO on either Win or Mac via RTPProxy. I can consistently reproduce this problem 100% on various systems and so do all my customers.
For the sceptics, there is a movie with the problem presented (Quicktime is required to play the stream): http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.mov
and an audio extract: http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.wav
This is the problem solved in our media proxy.
Regards, Adrian
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Amsterdam, Jan Janak wrote:
I am also wondering what is the problem with xten and rtp proxy, because I didn't have any problems.
Jan.
On 10-12 12:29, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per
session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from: http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
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Probably you need to replace "we have solved" with "we don't observe", because to say that something is "solved" you probably should be able to describe what the solution is. Personally I am not convinced that there is actually a real problem with our RTP proxy (my own tests and Jan's information confirms that), it could be just equially likely be the problem with your setup (OS you are using, libraries, network etc). Therefore, I strongly suggest you to stop asserting that your version is better in this respect than original one unless you are able to tell where the difference is or to provide instructions on how to reliably reproduce the problem.
Thanks!
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
The problem is that every few seconds there is a gap of half second in the audio stream (quality-wise the conversation is unacceptable) when using Xten softphone X-lite or X-PRO on either Win or Mac via RTPProxy. I can consistently reproduce this problem 100% on various systems and so do all my customers.
For the sceptics, there is a movie with the problem presented (Quicktime is required to play the stream): http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.mov
and an audio extract: http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.wav
This is the problem solved in our media proxy.
Regards, Adrian
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Amsterdam, Jan Janak wrote:
I am also wondering what is the problem with xten and rtp proxy, because I didn't have any problems.
Jan.
On 10-12 12:29, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per
session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from: http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
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On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 14:16 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Probably you need to replace "we have solved" with "we don't observe", because to say that something is "solved" you probably should be able to describe what the solution is.
20+ of my customers have experienced a problem in the interaction between xten soft clients and the rtp media proxy. I have reported this to Maxim (3 november), to xten (6 november) and ser user list (6 november). I have received no answer, hence the effort we put in finding a solution ourselves.
Maxim, I have all respect for all you work. For the sake of this, here is my correction:
"We don't observe this with our media proxy"
Personally I am not convinced that there is actually a real problem with our RTP proxy (my own tests and Jan's information confirms that),
Personally, I am totally convinced that I had a problem and I am am perfectly convinced that I solved my problem. I think this is the single point of arguing here.
it could be just equially likely be the problem with your setup (OS you are using, libraries, network etc).
It is not isolated to my setup. Before I have notified Maxim, Xten and SER user list, I have reproduced the problem on different operations systems (Windows and MacOSX), different Xten versions, different firewalls (NET Gear, D-Link, Alcatel Speetouch and Linux masquerading) different IP networks and different sip server software.
Therefore, I strongly suggest you to stop asserting that your version is better
I wrote "alternative" version with different features. Nothing about "better". Your software is better :-)
in this respect than original one unless you are able to tell where the difference is or to provide instructions on how to reliably reproduce the problem.
To reproduce this I start up Xten and make a call via the proxy.
Thanks!
Welcome.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
The problem is that every few seconds there is a gap of half second in the audio stream (quality-wise the conversation is unacceptable) when using Xten softphone X-lite or X-PRO on either Win or Mac via RTPProxy. I can consistently reproduce this problem 100% on various systems and so do all my customers. For the sceptics, there is a movie with the problem presented (Quicktime is required to play the stream): http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.mov and an audio extract: http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.wav This is the problem solved in our media proxy. Regards, Adrian On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Amsterdam, Jan Janak wrote:
I am also wondering what is the problem with xten and rtp proxy, because I didn't have any problems.
Jan.
On 10-12 12:29, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
> Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with > SER > nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python > and > should be able to run without recompilation on any system where > Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. > There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly > the > problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
> Features > - Compliant with SER nathelper module > - Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris > - Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps > - Display active media sessions > - Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes > - Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per > session > - Flexible design for adding new features > To do list > - Run it on separate machine than SER > - Log network traffic per domain > - Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool > The application is free to download and use without limitations. > You > can download it from: > http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ > The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any > feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org > Regards, > Adrian Georgescu
Adrian,
Do you have an Etheral trace trace of such a call (using G711)? I can decode it and produce an audio file for all to examine. This way we can get to the bottom of this.
Thanks, Ricardo
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Georgescu" ag@ag-projects.com To: "Maxim Sobolev" sobomax@portaone.com Cc: serusers@lists.iptel.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: [Serusers] Re: Xten-RTPProxy choppy audio
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 14:16 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Probably you need to replace "we have solved" with "we don't observe", because to say that something is "solved" you probably should be able to describe what the solution is.
20+ of my customers have experienced a problem in the interaction between xten soft clients and the rtp media proxy. I have reported this to Maxim (3 november), to xten (6 november) and ser user list (6 november). I have received no answer, hence the effort we put in finding a solution ourselves.
Maxim, I have all respect for all you work. For the sake of this, here is my correction:
"We don't observe this with our media proxy"
Personally I am not convinced that there is actually a real problem with our RTP proxy (my own tests and Jan's information confirms that),
Personally, I am totally convinced that I had a problem and I am am perfectly convinced that I solved my problem. I think this is the single point of arguing here.
it could be just equially likely be the problem with your setup (OS you are using, libraries, network etc).
It is not isolated to my setup. Before I have notified Maxim, Xten and SER user list, I have reproduced the problem on different operations systems (Windows and MacOSX), different Xten versions, different firewalls (NET Gear, D-Link, Alcatel Speetouch and Linux masquerading) different IP networks and different sip server software.
Therefore, I strongly suggest you to stop asserting that your version is better
I wrote "alternative" version with different features. Nothing about "better". Your software is better :-)
in this respect than original one unless you are able to tell where the difference is or to provide instructions on how to reliably reproduce the problem.
To reproduce this I start up Xten and make a call via the proxy.
Thanks!
Welcome.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
The problem is that every few seconds there is a gap of half second in the audio stream (quality-wise the conversation is unacceptable) when using Xten softphone X-lite or X-PRO on either Win or Mac via RTPProxy. I can consistently reproduce this problem 100% on various systems and so do all my customers. For the sceptics, there is a movie with the problem presented (Quicktime is required to play the stream): http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.mov and an audio extract: http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.wav This is the problem solved in our media proxy. Regards, Adrian On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Amsterdam, Jan Janak wrote:
I am also wondering what is the problem with xten and rtp proxy, because I didn't have any problems.
Jan.
On 10-12 12:29, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> Adrian Georgescu wrote: > >> Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with >> SER >> nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python >> and >> should be able to run without recompilation on any system where >> Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. >> There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly >> the >> problem with Xten choppy audio was solved. > > > > Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you > solved? > > -Maxim > >> Features >> - Compliant with SER nathelper module >> - Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris >> - Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps >> - Display active media sessions >> - Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes >> - Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per >> session >> - Flexible design for adding new features >> To do list >> - Run it on separate machine than SER >> - Log network traffic per domain >> - Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool >> The application is free to download and use without limitations. >> You >> can download it from: >> http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ >> The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any >> feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org >> Regards, >> Adrian Georgescu
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I am afraid it will not be sufficient, as it will not show exactly which part of the system fails. The only way to get to the bottom of this is to say "take version V1 of software S1, V2 of S2 etc, take this config" and do the following to reproduce the problem (eg. S1 == rtpproxy, S2 == X-Lite etc). If the problem reproducible that way then it should be fairly easy to hunt it down, if not, then it is not a problem with the software, but rather with some other part of the system.
-Maxim
Ricardo Villa wrote:
Adrian,
Do you have an Etheral trace trace of such a call (using G711)? I can decode it and produce an audio file for all to examine. This way we can get to the bottom of this.
Thanks, Ricardo
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Georgescu" ag@ag-projects.com To: "Maxim Sobolev" sobomax@portaone.com Cc: serusers@lists.iptel.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:15 AM Subject: [Serusers] Re: Xten-RTPProxy choppy audio
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 14:16 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Probably you need to replace "we have solved" with "we don't observe", because to say that something is "solved" you probably should be able to describe what the solution is.
20+ of my customers have experienced a problem in the interaction between xten soft clients and the rtp media proxy. I have reported this to Maxim (3 november), to xten (6 november) and ser user list (6 november). I have received no answer, hence the effort we put in finding a solution ourselves.
Maxim, I have all respect for all you work. For the sake of this, here is my correction:
"We don't observe this with our media proxy"
Personally I am not convinced that there is actually a real problem with our RTP proxy (my own tests and Jan's information confirms that),
Personally, I am totally convinced that I had a problem and I am am perfectly convinced that I solved my problem. I think this is the single point of arguing here.
it could be just equially likely be the problem with your setup (OS you are using, libraries, network etc).
It is not isolated to my setup. Before I have notified Maxim, Xten and SER user list, I have reproduced the problem on different operations systems (Windows and MacOSX), different Xten versions, different firewalls (NET Gear, D-Link, Alcatel Speetouch and Linux masquerading) different IP networks and different sip server software.
Therefore, I strongly suggest you to stop asserting that your version is better
I wrote "alternative" version with different features. Nothing about "better". Your software is better :-)
in this respect than original one unless you are able to tell where the difference is or to provide instructions on how to reliably reproduce the problem.
To reproduce this I start up Xten and make a call via the proxy.
Thanks!
Welcome.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
The problem is that every few seconds there is a gap of half second in the audio stream (quality-wise the conversation is unacceptable) when using Xten softphone X-lite or X-PRO on either Win or Mac via RTPProxy. I can consistently reproduce this problem 100% on various systems and so do all my customers. For the sceptics, there is a movie with the problem presented (Quicktime is required to play the stream): http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.mov and an audio extract: http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.wav This is the problem solved in our media proxy. Regards, Adrian On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Amsterdam, Jan Janak wrote:
I am also wondering what is the problem with xten and rtp proxy, because I didn't have any problems.
Jan.
On 10-12 12:29, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
>See >http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html > >On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim >Sobolev wrote: > > >>Adrian Georgescu wrote: >> >> >>>Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with >>>SER >>>nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python >>>and >>>should be able to run without recompilation on any system where >>>Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. >>>There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly >>> the >>>problem with Xten choppy audio was solved. >> >> >> >>Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you >>solved? >> >>-Maxim >> >> >>>Features >>>- Compliant with SER nathelper module >>>- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris >>>- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps >>>- Display active media sessions >>>- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes >>>- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per >>>session >>>- Flexible design for adding new features >>>To do list >>>- Run it on separate machine than SER >>>- Log network traffic per domain >>>- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool >>>The application is free to download and use without limitations. >>> You >>>can download it from: >>>http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ >>>The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any >>>feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org >>>Regards, >>>Adrian Georgescu
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On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 15:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Ricardo Villa wrote:
Adrian,
Do you have an Etheral trace trace of such a call (using G711)?
I guess ethereal traces can be generated with ethereal program and decoded locally on your servers if you want to isolate this.
I can decode it and produce an audio file for all to examine. This way we can get to the bottom of this. Thanks, Ricardo
Well, we can generate the traces locally, but I haven't encounter the problem you describe so it makes no sense.
You wrote you are able to reproduce the problem, in that case I would like to ask you to generate the traces that show the problem so we could analyze and fix it.
Also please tell us on what OS does this happen ? (I mean the OS the proxy is running on).
Another question, what is the license of your RTP proxy ? I didn't find any licensing info in the sources. Will the sources be available ?
Jan.
On 10-12 16:04, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 15:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Ricardo Villa wrote:
Adrian,
Do you have an Etheral trace trace of such a call (using G711)?
I guess ethereal traces can be generated with ethereal program and decoded locally on your servers if you want to isolate this.
I can decode it and produce an audio file for all to examine. This way we can get to the bottom of this. Thanks, Ricardo
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Another question, what is the license of your RTP proxy ? I didn't find any licensing info in the sources. Will the sources be available ? Jan.
This is a good question, Jan. At this moment it is available in binary form only and it is free to use without limitations nor that I guarantee that the program is fit for any particular purpose. I will provide you with an answer in the coming days.
Regards, Adrian
I might have actually observed sound quality distorsions with Windows Messenger too when used along with rtpproxy. I don't know whose guilt the distorsions are (could it be somehow related to lack of RTCP?) and quite likely it is other issue than Klaus discovered (Klaus, thank you!). Excuse my vagueness -- I would love to verify it, but my ISP screws me now and I'm forcibly off-line.
I will let you know more as soon as I am online.
-jiri
ps -- What is the license for the new media proxy?
At 01:58 PM 12/10/2003, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
The problem is that every few seconds there is a gap of half second in the audio stream (quality-wise the conversation is unacceptable) when using Xten softphone X-lite or X-PRO on either Win or Mac via RTPProxy. I can consistently reproduce this problem 100% on various systems and so do all my customers.
For the sceptics, there is a movie with the problem presented (Quicktime is required to play the stream): http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.mov
and an audio extract: http://download.dns-hosting.info/SERMediaProxy/ XtenProblemWithRTPProxy.wav
This is the problem solved in our media proxy.
Regards, Adrian
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:53 Europe/Amsterdam, Jan Janak wrote:
I am also wondering what is the problem with xten and rtp proxy, because I didn't have any problems.
Jan.
On 10-12 12:29, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Sorry for my sloppy English, actually I was asking you to explain the cause of the problem. If you claim that something was "solved" in your version you should probably know how behaviour of your version differs from the behaviour of the original one.
-Maxim
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
See http://lists.iptel.org/pipermail/serusers/2003-November/003499.html
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 11:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Interesting. I wonder what was the problem with Xten that you solved?
-Maxim
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per
session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from: http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/ The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/ _______________________________________________
Hi Adrian!
I have just installed and tested it. Cool!
My question:
- Which port range is it using? Can this be configured? So for I found, that it uses at least port 35004...
Thanx!
T: Bernie
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from:
http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/
The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org
Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
It uses randomly available ports in the next range:
minPort = 35000 maxPort = 65000
I have noted this down. We will add an option to specify the range at runtime.
Regards, Adrian
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 16:58 Europe/Amsterdam, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote:
Hi Adrian!
I have just installed and tested it. Cool!
My question:
- Which port range is it using? Can this be configured? So for I found, that it uses at least port 35004...
Thanx!
T: Bernie
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from:
http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/
The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org
Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
Hi Adrian!
I looks I have already found the first bug. Pleas e be informed about the following issue:
It seams to work only with one media (m=) line. Making a video session (which uses two media lines, one for audio, one for video streams), it only changes the first media port (or the media port for audio line).
Is this a bug or did I forget something in the configuration?
T: Bernie
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from:
http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/
The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org
Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
This has nothing to do with RTPProxy, as it creates sessions on request from ser's nathelper module. Therefore, it is actually nathelper that needs to be updated to support more than one channel per session.
-Maxim
Bernie Hoeneisen wrote:
Hi Adrian!
I looks I have already found the first bug. Pleas e be informed about the following issue:
It seams to work only with one media (m=) line. Making a video session (which uses two media lines, one for audio, one for video streams), it only changes the first media port (or the media port for audio line).
Is this a bug or did I forget something in the configuration?
T: Bernie
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from:
http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/
The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org
Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
This looks like a bug. Could you please send me some traces?
Adrian
On Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003, at 17:22 Europe/Amsterdam, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote:
Hi Adrian!
I looks I have already found the first bug. Pleas e be informed about the following issue:
It seams to work only with one media (m=) line. Making a video session (which uses two media lines, one for audio, one for video streams), it only changes the first media port (or the media port for audio line).
Is this a bug or did I forget something in the configuration?
T: Bernie
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Adrian Georgescu wrote:
Hello, we have released an alternative RTPProxy that works with SER nathelper module. Is a completely new program written in Python and should be able to run without recompilation on any system where Python is supported. We have tested Linux Debian and Solaris 8. There are little differences against PortaOne's rtpproxy, mainly the problem with Xten choppy audio was solved.
Features
- Compliant with SER nathelper module
- Runs without recompilation on SUN Solaris
- Xten audio quality is perfect without gaps
- Display active media sessions
- Display traffic in minutes and kilobytes
- Log to syslog the IP/port numbers and traffic statistics per session
- Flexible design for adding new features
To do list
- Run it on separate machine than SER
- Log network traffic per domain
- Integrate traffic logging with CDRtool
The application is free to download and use without limitations. You can download it from:
http://download.dns-hosting.info/RTPProxy/
The application is developed and supported by AG Projects. Any feedback is welcome at support@jobserver.org
Regards, Adrian Georgescu ag@ag-projects.com http://ag-projects.com Tel: +31-23-5458104 IP phone: sip:ag@ag-projects.com
DNS, ENUM & IP telephony http://managed-dns.org/
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
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