1 Apr
2013
1 Apr
'13
1:33 a.m.
For immediate release:
ATLANTA, GA (1 April 2013)--Evariste Systems LLC, an Atlanta-based
consultancy specialising in Kamailio-based VoIP infrastructure solutions
for the ITSP and CLEC market, has announced that beginning in the second
quarter of 2013, it will be abandoning its Kamailio-based technology
portfolio to focus on its new role as a preferred VAR (Value Added
Reseller) for Acme Packet (NASDAQ:APKT).
"It is with a heavy heart that we abandon five years of Kamailio-oriented
work and the Canonical SIP Routing Platform product derived from it,"
said Alex Balashov, the principal of the company.
"However, the reality is that investment in open-source VoIP technology
is a dead end. From a technological point of view, we have lagged very
badly in meeting the needs of today's sophisticated VoIP market, and it's
time to cut our losses. Asterisk, Kamailio, FreeSWITCH--all this stuff
just hasn't kept up with the pace of evolution of 3GPP, ETSI, and ITU
standards. We are tired of saying 'sorry, we don't support IMS or
H.323' to our resultingly dwindling customer base. Does anyone
actually run an all-SIP network?"
Starting in early April, Evariste will begin providing value-added
consultancy related to the implementation of the Acme Packet Net-Net
Session Director. In Balashov's view, "the Net-Net SD is the only
product capable of meeting the perimeter security, routing and peering
needs of today's VoIP service delivery environment."
Fred Posner, the director of Team Forrest, a Palner Group integration
and consultancy operation based in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
agreed:
"SIP is a tiny piece of the telephony puzzle. The big boys of
ClueCon [an interoperator revenue-sharing consortium] want DIAMETER-based
interdomain peering policy control, H.323, MGCP, and IMS. IMS is pretty
much how VoIP architecture is done now. We got out of the Asterisk
business just in time, right before Mitel swallowed the PBX world.
I'm glad to see Evariste is finally seeing the light, and I'm sure its
shareholders are too."
Posner also believes Evariste's lack of support for TDM interfaces
accounted for dwindling market share.
"Have you seen CSRP? It's SIP in, SIP out. Real inter-LATA haulers
and application service providers use TDM and leave SIP for things
like voicemail. I can't plug my DS3s into a SIP proxy, so I just
don't think there was any real demand for the sort of thing they
were doing."
Noting Oracle's US$2.5bn acquisition of Acme Packet in early February,
as well as its more recently announced buyout of Tekelec, a Siris
Capital Group portfolio company, Balashov remarked: "The obvious
shift to an Oracle-centric telephony paradigm was a kind of validation,
if you will, of our decision to unload our dead weight and sign on
to the revolution in unified communications."
Sean McCord, of CyCORE Systems, an Atlanta-based software consulting
house and long-time Evariste creditor, agreed that there was a natural
synergy between Evariste's shift to Acme Packet and Oracle's dominance
of telephony infrastructure.
"Oracle is a forward-thinking telecom pioneer," McCord said.
"The telephone is Oracle, and Oracle is the telephone."
Balashov also noted that a tightening regulatory environment and new
consumer protection rules helped hasten the decision to embrace the
more professionalised Acme Packet product portfolio.
John Knight, Senior Engineer at Hendersonville, NC-based Ringfree
Communications, one of Evariste's oldest channel partners, said:
"As one of Evariste's long-time disties, we were jittery about exposure
to CALEA and the QA requirements of large call centers. We tried to
make do, but at some point we just had to put the relationship on
stop. I'm all in favour of open, but there's just no open-source
software out there that does call recording, and that's the bottom line
for us. In the end, we had to restructure some debt just to get
bondholders to let us source a proprietary solution on tick."
In a thematically related move, Evariste will be dropping its heavy
use of the open-source PostgreSQL database manager for its rating and
reporting tools.
"The business case for standardising on Oracle's databases could not be
clearer. With Oracle Database 11g's support of warehousing and OLTP,
the real mystery is why we didn't go there sooner," said Balashov.
Carlos Alvarez, a director at Televolve, a growing Phoenix-area VoIP
operator, recently spearheaded a move away from Evariste's PostgreSQL-
based call detail record (CDR) storage solution to one running atop
Microsoft SQL Server 2008.
Alvarez commented: "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute, David-and-Goliath
kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred phone calls a day
now. Are we really going to store those kinds of volumes in an
open-source database? Might as well just put it all in flat text
files at that point. Phone service is an uptime game. You can't
compromise on this stuff. What if someone needs to call 911?"
Asked to summarise his expectations, Balashov said: "I hope this turns us
around in a big way. We were wrong to think that nobody cared about
stuff like P-CSCFs, or that you could deliver even rudimentary VoIP
to the premise without the expansive feature set of a comprehensive
solution like the Net-Net SBC. I can only hope the market forgives us
for betting on 'SIP Express Router' and its ilk back in the day, and
gives us a chance to do it right in round two."
Fred Posner, of Team Forrest, added: "Besides, if you look at the Git
repository, Kamailio hasn't had any code contributions in at least five
years. It seems everyone's figured out this pure SIP stuff is defunct
and hokey."
1 Apr
1 Apr
1:53 a.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
Wow! Alex and the kamailio list are at a perplexing loss. We wish you luck
with your future endeavors. We hope that your exclusive Acme contract does
not become some sort April fools joke to get you out of open source.
On Mar 31, 2013 6:33 PM, "Alex Balashov" <abalashov(a)evaristesys.com>
wrote:
For immediate release:
ATLANTA, GA (1 April 2013)--Evariste Systems LLC, an Atlanta-based
consultancy specialising in Kamailio-based VoIP infrastructure solutions
for the ITSP and CLEC market, has announced that beginning in the second
quarter of 2013, it will be abandoning its Kamailio-based technology
portfolio to focus on its new role as a preferred VAR (Value Added
Reseller) for Acme Packet (NASDAQ:APKT).
"It is with a heavy heart that we abandon five years of Kamailio-oriented
work and the Canonical SIP Routing Platform product derived from it,"
said Alex Balashov, the principal of the company.
"However, the reality is that investment in open-source VoIP technology
is a dead end. From a technological point of view, we have lagged very
badly in meeting the needs of today's sophisticated VoIP market, and it's
time to cut our losses. Asterisk, Kamailio, FreeSWITCH--all this stuff
just hasn't kept up with the pace of evolution of 3GPP, ETSI, and ITU
standards. We are tired of saying 'sorry, we don't support IMS or
H.323' to our resultingly dwindling customer base. Does anyone
actually run an all-SIP network?"
Starting in early April, Evariste will begin providing value-added
consultancy related to the implementation of the Acme Packet Net-Net
Session Director. In Balashov's view, "the Net-Net SD is the only
product capable of meeting the perimeter security, routing and peering
needs of today's VoIP service delivery environment."
Fred Posner, the director of Team Forrest, a Palner Group integration
and consultancy operation based in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
agreed:
"SIP is a tiny piece of the telephony puzzle. The big boys of
ClueCon [an interoperator revenue-sharing consortium] want DIAMETER-based
interdomain peering policy control, H.323, MGCP, and IMS. IMS is pretty
much how VoIP architecture is done now. We got out of the Asterisk
business just in time, right before Mitel swallowed the PBX world.
I'm glad to see Evariste is finally seeing the light, and I'm sure its
shareholders are too."
Posner also believes Evariste's lack of support for TDM interfaces
accounted for dwindling market share.
"Have you seen CSRP? It's SIP in, SIP out. Real inter-LATA haulers
and application service providers use TDM and leave SIP for things
like voicemail. I can't plug my DS3s into a SIP proxy, so I just
don't think there was any real demand for the sort of thing they
were doing."
Noting Oracle's US$2.5bn acquisition of Acme Packet in early February,
as well as its more recently announced buyout of Tekelec, a Siris
Capital Group portfolio company, Balashov remarked: "The obvious
shift to an Oracle-centric telephony paradigm was a kind of validation,
if you will, of our decision to unload our dead weight and sign on
to the revolution in unified communications."
Sean McCord, of CyCORE Systems, an Atlanta-based software consulting
house and long-time Evariste creditor, agreed that there was a natural
synergy between Evariste's shift to Acme Packet and Oracle's dominance
of telephony infrastructure.
"Oracle is a forward-thinking telecom pioneer," McCord said.
"The telephone is Oracle, and Oracle is the telephone."
Balashov also noted that a tightening regulatory environment and new
consumer protection rules helped hasten the decision to embrace the
more professionalised Acme Packet product portfolio.
John Knight, Senior Engineer at Hendersonville, NC-based Ringfree
Communications, one of Evariste's oldest channel partners, said:
"As one of Evariste's long-time disties, we were jittery about exposure
to CALEA and the QA requirements of large call centers. We tried to
make do, but at some point we just had to put the relationship on
stop. I'm all in favour of open, but there's just no open-source
software out there that does call recording, and that's the bottom line
for us. In the end, we had to restructure some debt just to get
bondholders to let us source a proprietary solution on tick."
In a thematically related move, Evariste will be dropping its heavy
use of the open-source PostgreSQL database manager for its rating and
reporting tools.
"The business case for standardising on Oracle's databases could not be
clearer. With Oracle Database 11g's support of warehousing and OLTP,
the real mystery is why we didn't go there sooner," said Balashov.
Carlos Alvarez, a director at Televolve, a growing Phoenix-area VoIP
operator, recently spearheaded a move away from Evariste's PostgreSQL-
based call detail record (CDR) storage solution to one running atop
Microsoft SQL Server 2008.
Alvarez commented: "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute, David-and-Goliath
kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred phone calls a day
now. Are we really going to store those kinds of volumes in an
open-source database? Might as well just put it all in flat text
files at that point. Phone service is an uptime game. You can't
compromise on this stuff. What if someone needs to call 911?"
Asked to summarise his expectations, Balashov said: "I hope this turns us
around in a big way. We were wrong to think that nobody cared about
stuff like P-CSCFs, or that you could deliver even rudimentary VoIP
to the premise without the expansive feature set of a comprehensive
solution like the Net-Net SBC. I can only hope the market forgives us
for betting on 'SIP Express Router' and its ilk back in the day, and
gives us a chance to do it right in round two."
Fred Posner, of Team Forrest, added: "Besides, if you look at the Git
repository, Kamailio hasn't had any code contributions in at least five
years. It seems everyone's figured out this pure SIP stuff is defunct
and hokey."
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And a happy April 1 to you, too, Alex. I especially enjoyed the
"revenue-sharing consortium"...
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Subject: [SR-Users] Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme
Packet VAR
For immediate release:
ATLANTA, GA (1 April 2013)--Evariste Systems LLC, an Atlanta-based
consultancy specialising in Kamailio-based VoIP infrastructure solutions for
the ITSP and CLEC market, has announced that beginning in the second quarter
of 2013, it will be abandoning its Kamailio-based technology portfolio to
focus on its new role as a preferred VAR (Value Added
Reseller) for Acme Packet (NASDAQ:APKT).
"It is with a heavy heart that we abandon five years of Kamailio-oriented
work and the Canonical SIP Routing Platform product derived from it,"
said Alex Balashov, the principal of the company.
"However, the reality is that investment in open-source VoIP technology is a
dead end. From a technological point of view, we have lagged very badly in
meeting the needs of today's sophisticated VoIP market, and it's time to cut
our losses. Asterisk, Kamailio, FreeSWITCH--all this stuff just hasn't kept
up with the pace of evolution of 3GPP, ETSI, and ITU standards. We are
tired of saying 'sorry, we don't support IMS or H.323' to our resultingly
dwindling customer base. Does anyone actually run an all-SIP network?"
Starting in early April, Evariste will begin providing value-added
consultancy related to the implementation of the Acme Packet Net-Net Session
Director. In Balashov's view, "the Net-Net SD is the only product capable
of meeting the perimeter security, routing and peering needs of today's VoIP
service delivery environment."
Fred Posner, the director of Team Forrest, a Palner Group integration and
consultancy operation based in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
agreed:
"SIP is a tiny piece of the telephony puzzle. The big boys of ClueCon [an
interoperator revenue-sharing consortium] want DIAMETER-based interdomain
peering policy control, H.323, MGCP, and IMS. IMS is pretty much how VoIP
architecture is done now. We got out of the Asterisk business just in time,
right before Mitel swallowed the PBX world.
I'm glad to see Evariste is finally seeing the light, and I'm sure its
shareholders are too."
Posner also believes Evariste's lack of support for TDM interfaces accounted
for dwindling market share.
"Have you seen CSRP? It's SIP in, SIP out. Real inter-LATA haulers and
application service providers use TDM and leave SIP for things like
voicemail. I can't plug my DS3s into a SIP proxy, so I just don't think
there was any real demand for the sort of thing they were doing."
Noting Oracle's US$2.5bn acquisition of Acme Packet in early February, as
well as its more recently announced buyout of Tekelec, a Siris Capital Group
portfolio company, Balashov remarked: "The obvious shift to an
Oracle-centric telephony paradigm was a kind of validation, if you will, of
our decision to unload our dead weight and sign on to the revolution in
unified communications."
Sean McCord, of CyCORE Systems, an Atlanta-based software consulting house
and long-time Evariste creditor, agreed that there was a natural synergy
between Evariste's shift to Acme Packet and Oracle's dominance of telephony
infrastructure.
"Oracle is a forward-thinking telecom pioneer," McCord said.
"The telephone is Oracle, and Oracle is the telephone."
Balashov also noted that a tightening regulatory environment and new
consumer protection rules helped hasten the decision to embrace the more
professionalised Acme Packet product portfolio.
John Knight, Senior Engineer at Hendersonville, NC-based Ringfree
Communications, one of Evariste's oldest channel partners, said:
"As one of Evariste's long-time disties, we were jittery about exposure to
CALEA and the QA requirements of large call centers. We tried to make do,
but at some point we just had to put the relationship on stop. I'm all in
favour of open, but there's just no open-source software out there that does
call recording, and that's the bottom line for us. In the end, we had to
restructure some debt just to get bondholders to let us source a proprietary
solution on tick."
In a thematically related move, Evariste will be dropping its heavy use of
the open-source PostgreSQL database manager for its rating and reporting
tools.
"The business case for standardising on Oracle's databases could not be
clearer. With Oracle Database 11g's support of warehousing and OLTP, the
real mystery is why we didn't go there sooner," said Balashov.
Carlos Alvarez, a director at Televolve, a growing Phoenix-area VoIP
operator, recently spearheaded a move away from Evariste's PostgreSQL- based
call detail record (CDR) storage solution to one running atop Microsoft SQL
Server 2008.
Alvarez commented: "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute, David-and-Goliath
kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred phone calls a day now.
Are we really going to store those kinds of volumes in an open-source
database? Might as well just put it all in flat text files at that point.
Phone service is an uptime game. You can't compromise on this stuff. What if
someone needs to call 911?"
Asked to summarise his expectations, Balashov said: "I hope this turns us
around in a big way. We were wrong to think that nobody cared about stuff
like P-CSCFs, or that you could deliver even rudimentary VoIP to the premise
without the expansive feature set of a comprehensive solution like the
Net-Net SBC. I can only hope the market forgives us for betting on 'SIP
Express Router' and its ilk back in the day, and gives us a chance to do it
right in round two."
Fred Posner, of Team Forrest, added: "Besides, if you look at the Git
repository, Kamailio hasn't had any code contributions in at least five
years. It seems everyone's figured out this pure SIP stuff is defunct and
hokey."
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12:04 p.m.
New subject: [Kamailio-Business] Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
Interesting ... I have been considering this option since a while now.
Alex are you having good channels within Oracle, can you maybe sub-license?
DanB
On 04/01/2013 12:33 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
For immediate release:
ATLANTA, GA (1 April 2013)--Evariste Systems LLC, an Atlanta-based
consultancy specialising in Kamailio-based VoIP infrastructure solutions
for the ITSP and CLEC market, has announced that beginning in the second
quarter of 2013, it will be abandoning its Kamailio-based technology
portfolio to focus on its new role as a preferred VAR (Value Added
Reseller) for Acme Packet (NASDAQ:APKT).
"It is with a heavy heart that we abandon five years of Kamailio-oriented
work and the Canonical SIP Routing Platform product derived from it,"
said Alex Balashov, the principal of the company.
"However, the reality is that investment in open-source VoIP technology
is a dead end. From a technological point of view, we have lagged very
badly in meeting the needs of today's sophisticated VoIP market, and it's
time to cut our losses. Asterisk, Kamailio, FreeSWITCH--all this stuff
just hasn't kept up with the pace of evolution of 3GPP, ETSI, and ITU
standards. We are tired of saying 'sorry, we don't support IMS or
H.323' to our resultingly dwindling customer base. Does anyone
actually run an all-SIP network?"
Starting in early April, Evariste will begin providing value-added
consultancy related to the implementation of the Acme Packet Net-Net
Session Director. In Balashov's view, "the Net-Net SD is the only
product capable of meeting the perimeter security, routing and peering
needs of today's VoIP service delivery environment."
Fred Posner, the director of Team Forrest, a Palner Group integration
and consultancy operation based in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
agreed:
"SIP is a tiny piece of the telephony puzzle. The big boys of
ClueCon [an interoperator revenue-sharing consortium] want DIAMETER-based
interdomain peering policy control, H.323, MGCP, and IMS. IMS is pretty
much how VoIP architecture is done now. We got out of the Asterisk
business just in time, right before Mitel swallowed the PBX world.
I'm glad to see Evariste is finally seeing the light, and I'm sure its
shareholders are too."
Posner also believes Evariste's lack of support for TDM interfaces
accounted for dwindling market share.
"Have you seen CSRP? It's SIP in, SIP out. Real inter-LATA haulers
and application service providers use TDM and leave SIP for things
like voicemail. I can't plug my DS3s into a SIP proxy, so I just
don't think there was any real demand for the sort of thing they
were doing."
Noting Oracle's US$2.5bn acquisition of Acme Packet in early February,
as well as its more recently announced buyout of Tekelec, a Siris
Capital Group portfolio company, Balashov remarked: "The obvious
shift to an Oracle-centric telephony paradigm was a kind of validation,
if you will, of our decision to unload our dead weight and sign on
to the revolution in unified communications."
Sean McCord, of CyCORE Systems, an Atlanta-based software consulting
house and long-time Evariste creditor, agreed that there was a natural
synergy between Evariste's shift to Acme Packet and Oracle's dominance
of telephony infrastructure.
"Oracle is a forward-thinking telecom pioneer," McCord said.
"The telephone is Oracle, and Oracle is the telephone."
Balashov also noted that a tightening regulatory environment and new
consumer protection rules helped hasten the decision to embrace the
more professionalised Acme Packet product portfolio.
John Knight, Senior Engineer at Hendersonville, NC-based Ringfree
Communications, one of Evariste's oldest channel partners, said:
"As one of Evariste's long-time disties, we were jittery about exposure
to CALEA and the QA requirements of large call centers. We tried to
make do, but at some point we just had to put the relationship on
stop. I'm all in favour of open, but there's just no open-source
software out there that does call recording, and that's the bottom line
for us. In the end, we had to restructure some debt just to get
bondholders to let us source a proprietary solution on tick."
In a thematically related move, Evariste will be dropping its heavy
use of the open-source PostgreSQL database manager for its rating and
reporting tools.
"The business case for standardising on Oracle's databases could not be
clearer. With Oracle Database 11g's support of warehousing and OLTP,
the real mystery is why we didn't go there sooner," said Balashov.
Carlos Alvarez, a director at Televolve, a growing Phoenix-area VoIP
operator, recently spearheaded a move away from Evariste's PostgreSQL-
based call detail record (CDR) storage solution to one running atop
Microsoft SQL Server 2008.
Alvarez commented: "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute, David-and-Goliath
kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred phone calls a day
now. Are we really going to store those kinds of volumes in an
open-source database? Might as well just put it all in flat text
files at that point. Phone service is an uptime game. You can't
compromise on this stuff. What if someone needs to call 911?"
Asked to summarise his expectations, Balashov said: "I hope this turns us
around in a big way. We were wrong to think that nobody cared about
stuff like P-CSCFs, or that you could deliver even rudimentary VoIP
to the premise without the expansive feature set of a comprehensive
solution like the Net-Net SBC. I can only hope the market forgives us
for betting on 'SIP Express Router' and its ilk back in the day, and
gives us a chance to do it right in round two."
Fred Posner, of Team Forrest, added: "Besides, if you look at the Git
repository, Kamailio hasn't had any code contributions in at least five
years. It seems everyone's figured out this pure SIP stuff is defunct
and hokey."
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10:09 p.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
It might be too late for you guys, as Kamailio Consortium decided to buy
Oracle asap. The move was planned for few years, not really related to
the latest Oracle acquisitions, but for protecting the future development.
The companies behind the consortium acknowledged that current
scalability model, the high pace of development and innovation should be
reconsidered. Needing a Raspberry Pi for handling several hundreds call
setups per second is no longer appropriate, therefore the architecture
has to be changed to meet today's operators expectations of 35 call
setups per second on high end servers (i.e., minimum 128 CPU cores and
4TB memory).
As a result, the consortium is looking to rewrite Kamailio in Java.
Buying Oracle, which is owning the Java technology, keeps the project
safe from potential future troubles on patents or trademarks. The full
new architecture of Kamailio is yet to be disclosed -- next are few
elements just to open your appetite:
- will run as many fusion reactors as needed to be able handle and
merge SIP particles that form a transaction or dialog in a non blocking way
- access to SIP message attributes and script variables will be
done through CORBA service - for example, that should allow to
dynamically change and use SIP parsers, without restart, and even rely
on humans. Practically you will be able to dictate in real time to kamailio
- execution of routing script will use Java RMI to call functions
from core or modules - therefore the modules can be distributed across
many nodes, including toasters or coffee machines that are always around
in data centers, with lot of spare CPU
Selection of Java was a laborious process, other alternatives being
found with clear disadvantages on portability, for example:
- python - white space indentation for controlling statements is a
portability stopper - for example, many have different background colors
and it is not defined what should happen when statements are indented
with black, blue, green or whatsoever color spaces. Even worse, the
space can be multicolor, therefore investigating thoroughly the
portability for all combinations of spaces is not feasible
- ruby on rails - the track gauge differs for rail systems in various
country - for example, developing Kamailio on rails in Germany will not
run in Russia. Not to mention that rails technology could be deprecated
soon, in favour of NGNv5.0 maglev
So guys, no matter where you want to run away, Kamailio will be the one
to open the door there and welcome you in!
Cheers,
Daniel
On 4/1/13 11:04 AM, DanB wrote:
Interesting ... I have been considering this option
since a while now.
Alex are you having good channels within Oracle, can you maybe
sub-license?
DanB
On 04/01/2013 12:33 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
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For immediate release:
ATLANTA, GA (1 April 2013)--Evariste Systems LLC, an Atlanta-based
consultancy specialising in Kamailio-based VoIP infrastructure solutions
for the ITSP and CLEC market, has announced that beginning in the second
quarter of 2013, it will be abandoning its Kamailio-based technology
portfolio to focus on its new role as a preferred VAR (Value Added
Reseller) for Acme Packet (NASDAQ:APKT).
"It is with a heavy heart that we abandon five years of
Kamailio-oriented
work and the Canonical SIP Routing Platform product derived from it,"
said Alex Balashov, the principal of the company.
"However, the reality is that investment in open-source VoIP technology
is a dead end. From a technological point of view, we have lagged very
badly in meeting the needs of today's sophisticated VoIP market, and
it's
time to cut our losses. Asterisk, Kamailio, FreeSWITCH--all this stuff
just hasn't kept up with the pace of evolution of 3GPP, ETSI, and ITU
standards. We are tired of saying 'sorry, we don't support IMS or
H.323' to our resultingly dwindling customer base. Does anyone
actually run an all-SIP network?"
Starting in early April, Evariste will begin providing value-added
consultancy related to the implementation of the Acme Packet Net-Net
Session Director. In Balashov's view, "the Net-Net SD is the only
product capable of meeting the perimeter security, routing and peering
needs of today's VoIP service delivery environment."
Fred Posner, the director of Team Forrest, a Palner Group integration
and consultancy operation based in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
agreed:
"SIP is a tiny piece of the telephony puzzle. The big boys of
ClueCon [an interoperator revenue-sharing consortium] want
DIAMETER-based
interdomain peering policy control, H.323, MGCP, and IMS. IMS is pretty
much how VoIP architecture is done now. We got out of the Asterisk
business just in time, right before Mitel swallowed the PBX world.
I'm glad to see Evariste is finally seeing the light, and I'm sure its
shareholders are too."
Posner also believes Evariste's lack of support for TDM interfaces
accounted for dwindling market share.
"Have you seen CSRP? It's SIP in, SIP out. Real inter-LATA haulers
and application service providers use TDM and leave SIP for things
like voicemail. I can't plug my DS3s into a SIP proxy, so I just
don't think there was any real demand for the sort of thing they
were doing."
Noting Oracle's US$2.5bn acquisition of Acme Packet in early February,
as well as its more recently announced buyout of Tekelec, a Siris
Capital Group portfolio company, Balashov remarked: "The obvious
shift to an Oracle-centric telephony paradigm was a kind of validation,
if you will, of our decision to unload our dead weight and sign on
to the revolution in unified communications."
Sean McCord, of CyCORE Systems, an Atlanta-based software consulting
house and long-time Evariste creditor, agreed that there was a natural
synergy between Evariste's shift to Acme Packet and Oracle's dominance
of telephony infrastructure.
"Oracle is a forward-thinking telecom pioneer," McCord said.
"The telephone is Oracle, and Oracle is the telephone."
Balashov also noted that a tightening regulatory environment and new
consumer protection rules helped hasten the decision to embrace the
more professionalised Acme Packet product portfolio.
John Knight, Senior Engineer at Hendersonville, NC-based Ringfree
Communications, one of Evariste's oldest channel partners, said:
"As one of Evariste's long-time disties, we were jittery about exposure
to CALEA and the QA requirements of large call centers. We tried to
make do, but at some point we just had to put the relationship on
stop. I'm all in favour of open, but there's just no open-source
software out there that does call recording, and that's the bottom line
for us. In the end, we had to restructure some debt just to get
bondholders to let us source a proprietary solution on tick."
In a thematically related move, Evariste will be dropping its heavy
use of the open-source PostgreSQL database manager for its rating and
reporting tools.
"The business case for standardising on Oracle's databases could not be
clearer. With Oracle Database 11g's support of warehousing and OLTP,
the real mystery is why we didn't go there sooner," said Balashov.
Carlos Alvarez, a director at Televolve, a growing Phoenix-area VoIP
operator, recently spearheaded a move away from Evariste's PostgreSQL-
based call detail record (CDR) storage solution to one running atop
Microsoft SQL Server 2008.
Alvarez commented: "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute,
David-and-Goliath
kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred phone calls a day
now. Are we really going to store those kinds of volumes in an
open-source database? Might as well just put it all in flat text
files at that point. Phone service is an uptime game. You can't
compromise on this stuff. What if someone needs to call 911?"
Asked to summarise his expectations, Balashov said: "I hope this
turns us
around in a big way. We were wrong to think that nobody cared about
stuff like P-CSCFs, or that you could deliver even rudimentary VoIP
to the premise without the expansive feature set of a comprehensive
solution like the Net-Net SBC. I can only hope the market forgives us
for betting on 'SIP Express Router' and its ilk back in the day, and
gives us a chance to do it right in round two."
Fred Posner, of Team Forrest, added: "Besides, if you look at the Git
repository, Kamailio hasn't had any code contributions in at least five
years. It seems everyone's figured out this pure SIP stuff is defunct
and hokey."
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10:37 p.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
This is great news!
I've been developing an auto-loading coffee/toaster/egg/sausage
machine this past year but did not have any 'perfect' solution to
control the appliance via dictation.
Now, thanks to Kamailio, my dream of ready-to-go breakfast is very near.
On 4/1/2013 12:09 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
It might be too late for you guys, as Kamailio
Consortium decided to buy
Oracle asap. The move was planned for few years, not really related to
the latest Oracle acquisitions, but for protecting the future development.
The companies behind the consortium acknowledged that current
scalability model, the high pace of development and innovation should be
reconsidered. Needing a Raspberry Pi for handling several hundreds call
setups per second is no longer appropriate, therefore the architecture
has to be changed to meet today's operators expectations of 35 call
setups per second on high end servers (i.e., minimum 128 CPU cores and
4TB memory).
As a result, the consortium is looking to rewrite Kamailio in Java.
Buying Oracle, which is owning the Java technology, keeps the project
safe from potential future troubles on patents or trademarks. The full
new architecture of Kamailio is yet to be disclosed -- next are few
elements just to open your appetite:
- will run as many fusion reactors as needed to be able handle and
merge SIP particles that form a transaction or dialog in a non blocking way
- access to SIP message attributes and script variables will be
done through CORBA service - for example, that should allow to
dynamically change and use SIP parsers, without restart, and even rely
on humans. Practically you will be able to dictate in real time to kamailio
- execution of routing script will use Java RMI to call functions
from core or modules - therefore the modules can be distributed across
many nodes, including toasters or coffee machines that are always around
in data centers, with lot of spare CPU
Selection of Java was a laborious process, other alternatives being
found with clear disadvantages on portability, for example:
- python - white space indentation for controlling statements is a
portability stopper - for example, many have different background colors
and it is not defined what should happen when statements are indented
with black, blue, green or whatsoever color spaces. Even worse, the
space can be multicolor, therefore investigating thoroughly the
portability for all combinations of spaces is not feasible
- ruby on rails - the track gauge differs for rail systems in various
country - for example, developing Kamailio on rails in Germany will not
run in Russia. Not to mention that rails technology could be deprecated
soon, in favour of NGNv5.0 maglev
So guys, no matter where you want to run away, Kamailio will be the one
to open the door there and welcome you in!
Cheers,
Daniel
On 4/1/13 11:04 AM, DanB wrote:
Interesting ... I have been considering this
option since a while now.
Alex are you having good channels within Oracle, can you maybe
sub-license?
DanB
On 04/01/2013 12:33 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
For immediate release:
ATLANTA, GA (1 April 2013)--Evariste Systems LLC, an Atlanta-based
consultancy specialising in Kamailio-based VoIP infrastructure solutions
for the ITSP and CLEC market, has announced that beginning in the second
quarter of 2013, it will be abandoning its Kamailio-based technology
portfolio to focus on its new role as a preferred VAR (Value Added
Reseller) for Acme Packet (NASDAQ:APKT).
"It is with a heavy heart that we abandon five years of
Kamailio-oriented
work and the Canonical SIP Routing Platform product derived from it,"
said Alex Balashov, the principal of the company.
"However, the reality is that investment in open-source VoIP technology
is a dead end. From a technological point of view, we have lagged very
badly in meeting the needs of today's sophisticated VoIP market, and
it's
time to cut our losses. Asterisk, Kamailio, FreeSWITCH--all this stuff
just hasn't kept up with the pace of evolution of 3GPP, ETSI, and ITU
standards. We are tired of saying 'sorry, we don't support IMS or
H.323' to our resultingly dwindling customer base. Does anyone
actually run an all-SIP network?"
Starting in early April, Evariste will begin providing value-added
consultancy related to the implementation of the Acme Packet Net-Net
Session Director. In Balashov's view, "the Net-Net SD is the only
product capable of meeting the perimeter security, routing and peering
needs of today's VoIP service delivery environment."
Fred Posner, the director of Team Forrest, a Palner Group integration
and consultancy operation based in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
agreed:
"SIP is a tiny piece of the telephony puzzle. The big boys of
ClueCon [an interoperator revenue-sharing consortium] want
DIAMETER-based
interdomain peering policy control, H.323, MGCP, and IMS. IMS is pretty
much how VoIP architecture is done now. We got out of the Asterisk
business just in time, right before Mitel swallowed the PBX world.
I'm glad to see Evariste is finally seeing the light, and I'm sure its
shareholders are too."
Posner also believes Evariste's lack of support for TDM interfaces
accounted for dwindling market share.
"Have you seen CSRP? It's SIP in, SIP out. Real inter-LATA haulers
and application service providers use TDM and leave SIP for things
like voicemail. I can't plug my DS3s into a SIP proxy, so I just
don't think there was any real demand for the sort of thing they
were doing."
Noting Oracle's US$2.5bn acquisition of Acme Packet in early February,
as well as its more recently announced buyout of Tekelec, a Siris
Capital Group portfolio company, Balashov remarked: "The obvious
shift to an Oracle-centric telephony paradigm was a kind of validation,
if you will, of our decision to unload our dead weight and sign on
to the revolution in unified communications."
Sean McCord, of CyCORE Systems, an Atlanta-based software consulting
house and long-time Evariste creditor, agreed that there was a natural
synergy between Evariste's shift to Acme Packet and Oracle's dominance
of telephony infrastructure.
"Oracle is a forward-thinking telecom pioneer," McCord said.
"The telephone is Oracle, and Oracle is the telephone."
Balashov also noted that a tightening regulatory environment and new
consumer protection rules helped hasten the decision to embrace the
more professionalised Acme Packet product portfolio.
John Knight, Senior Engineer at Hendersonville, NC-based Ringfree
Communications, one of Evariste's oldest channel partners, said:
"As one of Evariste's long-time disties, we were jittery about exposure
to CALEA and the QA requirements of large call centers. We tried to
make do, but at some point we just had to put the relationship on
stop. I'm all in favour of open, but there's just no open-source
software out there that does call recording, and that's the bottom line
for us. In the end, we had to restructure some debt just to get
bondholders to let us source a proprietary solution on tick."
In a thematically related move, Evariste will be dropping its heavy
use of the open-source PostgreSQL database manager for its rating and
reporting tools.
"The business case for standardising on Oracle's databases could not be
clearer. With Oracle Database 11g's support of warehousing and OLTP,
the real mystery is why we didn't go there sooner," said Balashov.
Carlos Alvarez, a director at Televolve, a growing Phoenix-area VoIP
operator, recently spearheaded a move away from Evariste's PostgreSQL-
based call detail record (CDR) storage solution to one running atop
Microsoft SQL Server 2008.
Alvarez commented: "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute,
David-and-Goliath
kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred phone calls a day
now. Are we really going to store those kinds of volumes in an
open-source database? Might as well just put it all in flat text
files at that point. Phone service is an uptime game. You can't
compromise on this stuff. What if someone needs to call 911?"
Asked to summarise his expectations, Balashov said: "I hope this
turns us
around in a big way. We were wrong to think that nobody cared about
stuff like P-CSCFs, or that you could deliver even rudimentary VoIP
to the premise without the expansive feature set of a comprehensive
solution like the Net-Net SBC. I can only hope the market forgives us
for betting on 'SIP Express Router' and its ilk back in the day, and
gives us a chance to do it right in round two."
Fred Posner, of Team Forrest, added: "Besides, if you look at the Git
repository, Kamailio hasn't had any code contributions in at least five
years. It seems everyone's figured out this pure SIP stuff is defunct
and hokey."
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11:48 p.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
On 1 Apr 2013 20:38, "Skyler" <skchopperguy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
No bacon? Pass.
-Barry
This is great news!
I've been developing an auto-loading coffee/toaster/egg/sausage machine
this
past year but did not have any 'perfect' solution to control the
appliance via dictation.
2 Apr
2 Apr
2:51 a.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
Barry,
On 4/1/2013 1:48 PM, Barry Flanagan wrote:
On 1 Apr 2013 20:38, "Skyler"
<skchopperguy(a)gmail.com
<mailto:skchopperguy@gmail.com>> wrote:
No bacon? Pass.
-Barry
Hold on, don't leave the idea yet. There will be buggy upgrades
available for you with annual releases. You'll have your bacon too, I
promise.
Sklyer
This is great news!
I've been developing an auto-loading coffee/toaster/egg/sausage
machine this
past year but did not have any 'perfect' solution to
control the appliance via dictation.
4:37 p.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
I suppose Kamailio Consortium must bye also Microsoft and may be Google -
this way you will protect surely future of Kamailio.
PS
Getting MS, you will get also Skype, and then may be we will see normal
integration with Skype. :)
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Skyler <skchopperguy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Barry,
On 4/1/2013 1:48 PM, Barry Flanagan wrote:
On 1 Apr 2013 20:38, "Skyler"
<skchopperguy(a)gmail.com
<mailto:skchopperguy@gmail.com**>> wrote:
No bacon? Pass.
-Barry
Hold on, don't leave the idea yet. There will be buggy upgrades available
for you with annual releases. You'll have your bacon too, I promise.
Sklyer
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This is great news!
I've been developing an auto-loading coffee/toaster/egg/sausage
machine this
past year but did not have any 'perfect' solution to
control the appliance via dictation.
6:19 p.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
On 04/01/2013 03:09 PM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla wrote:
- will run as many fusion reactors as needed to
be able handle and
merge SIP particles that form a transaction or dialog in a non blocking way
I hope this will use the ReactorFactory pattern. :-)
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Evariste Systems LLC
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Suite 106
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United States
Tel: +1-678-954-0670
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1 Apr
1 Apr
9:52 p.m.
New subject: Evariste Systems to drop Kamailio market, become Acme Packet VAR
Nice one...you got me up until "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute,
David-and-Goliath kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred
phone calls a day now. Are we really going to store those kinds of
volumes in an open-source database?"
Happy April Fools Day!
LMAO
On 3/31/2013 3:33 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
For immediate release:
ATLANTA, GA (1 April 2013)--Evariste Systems LLC, an Atlanta-based
consultancy specialising in Kamailio-based VoIP infrastructure solutions
for the ITSP and CLEC market, has announced that beginning in the second
quarter of 2013, it will be abandoning its Kamailio-based technology
portfolio to focus on its new role as a preferred VAR (Value Added
Reseller) for Acme Packet (NASDAQ:APKT).
"It is with a heavy heart that we abandon five years of Kamailio-oriented
work and the Canonical SIP Routing Platform product derived from it,"
said Alex Balashov, the principal of the company.
"However, the reality is that investment in open-source VoIP technology
is a dead end. From a technological point of view, we have lagged very
badly in meeting the needs of today's sophisticated VoIP market, and it's
time to cut our losses. Asterisk, Kamailio, FreeSWITCH--all this stuff
just hasn't kept up with the pace of evolution of 3GPP, ETSI, and ITU
standards. We are tired of saying 'sorry, we don't support IMS or
H.323' to our resultingly dwindling customer base. Does anyone
actually run an all-SIP network?"
Starting in early April, Evariste will begin providing value-added
consultancy related to the implementation of the Acme Packet Net-Net
Session Director. In Balashov's view, "the Net-Net SD is the only
product capable of meeting the perimeter security, routing and peering
needs of today's VoIP service delivery environment."
Fred Posner, the director of Team Forrest, a Palner Group integration
and consultancy operation based in the Jacksonville, Florida area,
agreed:
"SIP is a tiny piece of the telephony puzzle. The big boys of
ClueCon [an interoperator revenue-sharing consortium] want DIAMETER-based
interdomain peering policy control, H.323, MGCP, and IMS. IMS is pretty
much how VoIP architecture is done now. We got out of the Asterisk
business just in time, right before Mitel swallowed the PBX world.
I'm glad to see Evariste is finally seeing the light, and I'm sure its
shareholders are too."
Posner also believes Evariste's lack of support for TDM interfaces
accounted for dwindling market share.
"Have you seen CSRP? It's SIP in, SIP out. Real inter-LATA haulers
and application service providers use TDM and leave SIP for things
like voicemail. I can't plug my DS3s into a SIP proxy, so I just
don't think there was any real demand for the sort of thing they
were doing."
Noting Oracle's US$2.5bn acquisition of Acme Packet in early February,
as well as its more recently announced buyout of Tekelec, a Siris
Capital Group portfolio company, Balashov remarked: "The obvious
shift to an Oracle-centric telephony paradigm was a kind of validation,
if you will, of our decision to unload our dead weight and sign on
to the revolution in unified communications."
Sean McCord, of CyCORE Systems, an Atlanta-based software consulting
house and long-time Evariste creditor, agreed that there was a natural
synergy between Evariste's shift to Acme Packet and Oracle's dominance
of telephony infrastructure.
"Oracle is a forward-thinking telecom pioneer," McCord said.
"The telephone is Oracle, and Oracle is the telephone."
Balashov also noted that a tightening regulatory environment and new
consumer protection rules helped hasten the decision to embrace the
more professionalised Acme Packet product portfolio.
John Knight, Senior Engineer at Hendersonville, NC-based Ringfree
Communications, one of Evariste's oldest channel partners, said:
"As one of Evariste's long-time disties, we were jittery about exposure
to CALEA and the QA requirements of large call centers. We tried to
make do, but at some point we just had to put the relationship on
stop. I'm all in favour of open, but there's just no open-source
software out there that does call recording, and that's the bottom line
for us. In the end, we had to restructure some debt just to get
bondholders to let us source a proprietary solution on tick."
In a thematically related move, Evariste will be dropping its heavy
use of the open-source PostgreSQL database manager for its rating and
reporting tools.
"The business case for standardising on Oracle's databases could not be
clearer. With Oracle Database 11g's support of warehousing and OLTP,
the real mystery is why we didn't go there sooner," said Balashov.
Carlos Alvarez, a director at Televolve, a growing Phoenix-area VoIP
operator, recently spearheaded a move away from Evariste's PostgreSQL-
based call detail record (CDR) storage solution to one running atop
Microsoft SQL Server 2008.
Alvarez commented: "Evariste had a nice idea, in a cute, David-and-Goliath
kind of way, but we're processing over five hundred phone calls a day
now. Are we really going to store those kinds of volumes in an
open-source database? Might as well just put it all in flat text
files at that point. Phone service is an uptime game. You can't
compromise on this stuff. What if someone needs to call 911?"
Asked to summarise his expectations, Balashov said: "I hope this turns us
around in a big way. We were wrong to think that nobody cared about
stuff like P-CSCFs, or that you could deliver even rudimentary VoIP
to the premise without the expansive feature set of a comprehensive
solution like the Net-Net SBC. I can only hope the market forgives us
for betting on 'SIP Express Router' and its ilk back in the day, and
gives us a chance to do it right in round two."
Fred Posner, of Team Forrest, added: "Besides, if you look at the Git
repository, Kamailio hasn't had any code contributions in at least five
years. It seems everyone's figured out this pure SIP stuff is defunct
and hokey."
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