Let me rephrase. I don't think it is SER. And I do agree it is Messenger. When UserA signs out, the update is immediately seen by UserB that UserA is offline. So, where is the update failing?

Scott Morris Enterprise Network Engineer DOE - ORAU / ORISE 865-576-4672

-----Original Message----- From: Morris, Scott Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:29 AM To: 'Mario Kolberg'; serusers@lists.iptel.org Subject: RE: [Serusers] Windows Messenger 5.0

I can't say it's a messenger issue. Messenger wants a contact list, and to show you who is online and offline. Your phone doesn't do that. The phone talks to SER to see if the person is signed in. Or does kphone and sipc show users signed in?

Scott Morris Enterprise Network Engineer DOE - ORAU / ORISE 865-576-4672

-----Original Message----- From: Mario Kolberg [mailto:mko@cs.stir.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:47 AM To: Morris, Scott; serusers@lists.iptel.org Subject: Re:[Serusers] Windows Messenger 5.0

I have made exactly the same observation. I treat it as a problem with Messenger as it works fine between two kphone UAs or between sipc and kphone. I'm running ser 0.8.12.

Mario

I have 0.8.1 running on Suse 9.0. It works great with my Zultys phone, Polycom IP 600, and the Helmsen agent. When I try to use Windows Messenger 5.0 I have a slight problem.

UserA signs in. UserB signs in, and sees that UserA is online, and there changes the UserA in the contact list on ONLINE. But UserB never shows as ONLINE on UserA's desktop. So UserA can't call UserB. The update never goes to UserA's desktop. What am I missing here?