9 May
2007
9 May
'07
12:40 a.m.
Excellent news. Thanks for the feedback. Overall, and please don't take this
negatively, I think documentation for SER is difficult for beginners, so if we have to go
through the learning curve anyway, we might as well do it in the newer version.
Thanks again
On Tue, May 8, 2007 5:04 pm, SIP <sip(a)arcdiv.com> said:
For all intents and purposes, SER 2.0 (the new one) is
ready for use.
The only thing it's really waiting on to be 'stable' is some better
documentation. However, it's best, if you're just getting started, to
deploy with the new version and maybe muddle your way through a bit
until documentation is complete.
N.
lists(a)infoway.net wrote:
We are planning on deploying a couple of SER
servers and integrate them with
either SEMS or Asterisk for voicemail. However, we are a bit confused as to which
version of SER to go with? From what we can tell, the latest stable version is
0.9.6. However, we know of the new 0.10.X version. Reading up on the site, there
is some documentation that explains a little bit of the differences and/or
migration recommendations/steps.
So, in an effort to keep life as simple as possible, which version should we work
with? We are afraid that if we go through a learning cycle with 0.9.6 we're going
to "suffer" when migrating to the new version, either because of the learning
curve or because of a potential painful migration process.
Any recommendations?
Thanks
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9 May
9 May
1:08 a.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Which version of SER to use?
Oh don't worry. I won't take it the wrong way. I'll be the first to tell
you that the documentation for SER is pretty close to unusable. But
unfortunately, that's the way most open source projects are. You have
all these coding geniuses building them, and all these systems geniuses
testing them... and not a single one of them remembers how to convey
information to the rest of us. ;)
What the project lacks is a full-time technical writer -- someone whose
job it is is to corner the developers and ask them what all of this
stuff means (in intricate detail) and not let them go until they've
fully explained all of it. Then he/she can take that information and
translate it into something human beings can understand.
This is one reason why good technical writers are expensive, and the
primary reason that most companies and projects 'make do' with whatever
they can find.
If you know any good technical writers who might be willing to fly off
to Europe and ply some of the SER team with beer enough to get them
talking, we could most certainly use it. I'll pay for the beer. ;)
N.
lists(a)infoway.net wrote:
Excellent news. Thanks for the feedback. Overall, and
please don't take this negatively, I think documentation for SER is difficult for
beginners, so if we have to go through the learning curve anyway, we might as well do it
in the newer version.
Thanks again
On Tue, May 8, 2007 5:04 pm, SIP <sip(a)arcdiv.com> said:
> For all intents and purposes, SER 2.0 (the new one) is ready for use.
> The only thing it's really waiting on to be 'stable' is some better
> documentation. However, it's best, if you're just getting started, to
> deploy with the new version and maybe muddle your way through a bit
> until documentation is complete.
>
> N.
>
>
> lists(a)infoway.net wrote:
>
>> We are planning on deploying a couple of SER servers and integrate them with
>> either SEMS or Asterisk for voicemail. However, we are a bit confused as to
which
>> version of SER to go with? From what we can tell, the latest stable version is
>> 0.9.6. However, we know of the new 0.10.X version. Reading up on the site, there
>> is some documentation that explains a little bit of the differences and/or
>> migration recommendations/steps.
>>
>> So, in an effort to keep life as simple as possible, which version should we
work
>> with? We are afraid that if we go through a learning cycle with 0.9.6 we're
going
>> to "suffer" when migrating to the new version, either because of the
learning
>> curve or because of a potential painful migration process.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Serusers mailing list
>> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
>>
>>
>
11:36 a.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Which version of SER to use?
heh heh, as iptel.org is an open-source project, we need a sponsor to
pay for a technical writer if we want one. Iptego did that for SEMS
documentation, but we don't have a documentation sponsor for SER. I'm
afraid paid beer does not bring us far...
So, we will have to cope with the volunteers we have. An advanced user,
like you, is as good a writer as anyone, so if you want to put your
keyboard fingers where your mouth is ;-), you are very welcome to sign
up as a volunteer on either of our three current documentation efforts:
1. Migration guide (editor: Simon Miles)
2. Reference guide (editor: yours truly)
3. SER - Getting Started (editor: ?)
I'm in the process of coordinating the table of contents with Simon, but
here's an attempted outline:
http://www.iptel.org/suggestion_for_outline_of_new_ser_reference_manual
Feel free to sign up for any chapter or maybe editor of the Getting
Started guide?!
g-)
SIP wrote:
Oh don't worry. I won't take it the wrong way.
I'll be the first to
tell you that the documentation for SER is pretty close to unusable.
But unfortunately, that's the way most open source projects are. You
have all these coding geniuses building them, and all these systems
geniuses testing them... and not a single one of them remembers how to
convey information to the rest of us. ;)
What the project lacks is a full-time technical writer -- someone
whose job it is is to corner the developers and ask them what all of
this stuff means (in intricate detail) and not let them go until
they've fully explained all of it. Then he/she can take that
information and translate it into something human beings can understand.
This is one reason why good technical writers are expensive, and the
primary reason that most companies and projects 'make do' with
whatever they can find.
If you know any good technical writers who might be willing to fly off
to Europe and ply some of the SER team with beer enough to get them
talking, we could most certainly use it. I'll pay for the beer. ;)
N.
lists(a)infoway.net wrote:
Excellent news. Thanks for the feedback. Overall,
and please don't
take this negatively, I think documentation for SER is difficult for
beginners, so if we have to go through the learning curve anyway, we
might as well do it in the newer version.
Thanks again
On Tue, May 8, 2007 5:04 pm, SIP <sip(a)arcdiv.com> said:
> For all intents and purposes, SER 2.0 (the new one) is ready for use.
> The only thing it's really waiting on to be 'stable' is some better
> documentation. However, it's best, if you're just getting started, to
> deploy with the new version and maybe muddle your way through a bit
> until documentation is complete.
>
> N.
>
>
> lists(a)infoway.net wrote:
>
>> We are planning on deploying a couple of SER servers and integrate
>> them with
>> either SEMS or Asterisk for voicemail. However, we are a bit
>> confused as to which
>> version of SER to go with? From what we can tell, the latest stable
>> version is
>> 0.9.6. However, we know of the new 0.10.X version. Reading up on
>> the site, there
>> is some documentation that explains a little bit of the differences
>> and/or
>> migration recommendations/steps.
>>
>> So, in an effort to keep life as simple as possible, which version
>> should we work
>> with? We are afraid that if we go through a learning cycle with
>> 0.9.6 we're going
>> to "suffer" when migrating to the new version, either because of
>> the learning
>> curve or because of a potential painful migration process.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Serusers mailing list
>> Serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
>> http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
>>
>>
>
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11:29 a.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Which version of SER to use?
SER - Getting Started, http://www.iptel.org/ser/doc/gettingstarted, is
still the best starting point for beginners. It's in the process of
being revised.
Check out the new buildsystem, http://www.iptel.org/ser/doc/buildsystem,
to generate a very simple hello world file.
Also, the etc directory of the source code contains a ser.cfg example
file with lots of features, as well as a ser_basic.cfg (similar
alternative to helloworld).
g-)
lists(a)infoway.net wrote:
Excellent news. Thanks for the feedback. Overall, and
please don't take this negatively, I think documentation for SER is difficult for
beginners, so if we have to go through the learning curve anyway, we might as well do it
in the newer version.
Thanks again
On Tue, May 8, 2007 5:04 pm, SIP <sip(a)arcdiv.com> said:
For all intents and purposes, SER 2.0 (the new
one) is ready for use.
The only thing it's really waiting on to be 'stable' is some better
documentation. However, it's best, if you're just getting started, to
deploy with the new version and maybe muddle your way through a bit
until documentation is complete.
N.
lists(a)infoway.net wrote:
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We are planning on deploying a couple of SER
servers and integrate them with
either SEMS or Asterisk for voicemail. However, we are a bit confused as to which
version of SER to go with? From what we can tell, the latest stable version is
0.9.6. However, we know of the new 0.10.X version. Reading up on the site, there
is some documentation that explains a little bit of the differences and/or
migration recommendations/steps.
So, in an effort to keep life as simple as possible, which version should we work
with? We are afraid that if we go through a learning cycle with 0.9.6 we're going
to "suffer" when migrating to the new version, either because of the learning
curve or because of a potential painful migration process.
Any recommendations?
Thanks
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