10 Dec
2003
10 Dec
'03
1:56 p.m.
Here is a little more insight into what I envision to be the core network.
Hopefully this will help in the scalability question I'm desperate to get a
better understanding of.
I'm just not sure if I've under-engineered this, or over-engineered it - and
what I can get rid of to save money or what more I need to spend.
Thanks again for all the help!
- Darren
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Architecture = Intel i386
Bandwidth = DS3 to OC12
Population Size = Initially, a 100k user base at 10-1 ratio (10,000
simultaneous calls) and a 100-1 ratio for voicemail (1,000 simultaneous
calls).
Scenario Implemented:
2x centralized database servers (For SER/SEMS) Running Redhat Advanced
Server 2.1 - Quad 2.5Ghz 1MB Cache Xeon CPUs - 8GB Ram - 60GB Raid Storage
on host - Multi-Threaded MySQL - Multiple Gigabit Network Interfaces
2x centralized storage servers (For VM, Web Content, etc) Running Redhat
Advanced Server 2.1 - 2GB Ram - 140GB Storage on Host - 2.04TB Raid Storage
- Multiple Gigabit Network Interfaces
4x SER servers Running RedHat AS 2.1 or RedHat 9 - Dual 3Ghz Xeon CPUs per
server - 2GB RAM - NFS to Storage Server via Deticated Gigabit Network -
Seperate Network card for Internet Connectivity - 18GB Raid Storage on Host
4x SEMS servers Running RedHat AS 2.1 or RedHat 9 - Dual 3Ghz Xeon CPUs per
server - 2GB RAM - NFS to Storage Server via Deticated Gigabit Network -
Seperate Network card for Internet Connectivity - 18GB Raid Storage on Host
6x WEB Servers
3x DNS Servers
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Janak
To: Darren Sessions
Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Sent: 12/10/2003 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Serusers] Scalability Question
No, it depends on many factors like, architecture used, bandwitdth,
population size, scenario implemented and so on.
Jan.
On 09-12 12:35, Darren Sessions wrote:
Is there a scalability guide anywhere I can use in
helping me decide
how
much hardware to buy for SER + SER/SEMS application?
Thanks,
- Darren
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10 Dec
10 Dec
5:59 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Scalability Question
On Dec 10, 2003 at 06:56, Darren Sessions <dsessions(a)ionosphere.net> wrote:
Here is a little more insight into what I envision to
be the core network.
Hopefully this will help in the scalability question I'm desperate to get a
better understanding of.
I'm just not sure if I've under-engineered this, or over-engineered it - and
what I can get rid of to save money or what more I need to spend.
I don't know about sems, but ser, if tuned for performance can do
4500-4800 cps on a dual athlon mp 2000+. On your configuration (dual
Xeon 3Ghz 1Mb cache) it should do much better (but I think it is very
improbable to have 10000 calls in a second from 100000 users, at least
not sustained more then a few seconds). You might consider adding more
memory (4Gb so you can use 3-3.5Gb for ser). This only if you want to
be prepared for the worse (DOS attacks that try to initiate as many
calls possible to non-responding destination, creating a lot of
transaction that will be deleted only after the final response timer
hits (default 120s); ser uses about 5k/transaction ).
Andrei
Thanks again for all the help!
- Darren
---
Architecture = Intel i386
Bandwidth = DS3 to OC12
Population Size = Initially, a 100k user base at 10-1 ratio (10,000
simultaneous calls) and a 100-1 ratio for voicemail (1,000 simultaneous
calls).
Scenario Implemented:
2x centralized database servers (For SER/SEMS) Running Redhat Advanced
Server 2.1 - Quad 2.5Ghz 1MB Cache Xeon CPUs - 8GB Ram - 60GB Raid Storage
on host - Multi-Threaded MySQL - Multiple Gigabit Network Interfaces
2x centralized storage servers (For VM, Web Content, etc) Running Redhat
Advanced Server 2.1 - 2GB Ram - 140GB Storage on Host - 2.04TB Raid Storage
- Multiple Gigabit Network Interfaces
4x SER servers Running RedHat AS 2.1 or RedHat 9 - Dual 3Ghz Xeon CPUs per
server - 2GB RAM - NFS to Storage Server via Deticated Gigabit Network -
Seperate Network card for Internet Connectivity - 18GB Raid Storage on Host
4x SEMS servers Running RedHat AS 2.1 or RedHat 9 - Dual 3Ghz Xeon CPUs per
server - 2GB RAM - NFS to Storage Server via Deticated Gigabit Network -
Seperate Network card for Internet Connectivity - 18GB Raid Storage on Host
6x WEB Servers
3x DNS Servers
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Janak
To: Darren Sessions
Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Sent: 12/10/2003 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Serusers] Scalability Question
No, it depends on many factors like, architecture used, bandwitdth,
population size, scenario implemented and so on.
Jan.
On 09-12 12:35, Darren Sessions wrote:
Is there a scalability guide anywhere I can use
in helping me decide
how
much hardware to buy for SER + SER/SEMS
application?
Thanks,
- Darren
_______________________________________________
Serusers mailing list
serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
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6:31 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Scalability Question
Some time ago at a request from one of prospective clients we had
performed peak performance estimate for our rtpproxy. According to
results, it should be able to handle up to 2,000 simulateneous G.723.1
sessions on a decent machine (P4 2.5-3.0 GHz). Please note that
fine-tuning of OS network stack parameters can be necessary to get such
high numbers, since RTP traffic consists of big number of very short UDP
frames (up to 30 frames/sec for one session), so that network stack
should be prepared to handle huge number of short packets.
-Maxim
Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul wrote:
On Dec 10, 2003 at 06:56, Darren Sessions
<dsessions(a)ionosphere.net> wrote:
Here is a little more insight into what I envision
to be the core network.
Hopefully this will help in the scalability question I'm desperate to get a
better understanding of.
I'm just not sure if I've under-engineered this, or over-engineered it - and
what I can get rid of to save money or what more I need to spend.
I don't know about sems, but ser, if tuned for performance can do
4500-4800 cps on a dual athlon mp 2000+. On your configuration (dual
Xeon 3Ghz 1Mb cache) it should do much better (but I think it is very
improbable to have 10000 calls in a second from 100000 users, at least
not sustained more then a few seconds). You might consider adding more
memory (4Gb so you can use 3-3.5Gb for ser). This only if you want to
be prepared for the worse (DOS attacks that try to initiate as many
calls possible to non-responding destination, creating a lot of
transaction that will be deleted only after the final response timer
hits (default 120s); ser uses about 5k/transaction ).
Andrei
Thanks again for all the help!
- Darren
---
Architecture = Intel i386
Bandwidth = DS3 to OC12
Population Size = Initially, a 100k user base at 10-1 ratio (10,000
simultaneous calls) and a 100-1 ratio for voicemail (1,000 simultaneous
calls).
Scenario Implemented:
2x centralized database servers (For SER/SEMS) Running Redhat Advanced
Server 2.1 - Quad 2.5Ghz 1MB Cache Xeon CPUs - 8GB Ram - 60GB Raid Storage
on host - Multi-Threaded MySQL - Multiple Gigabit Network Interfaces
2x centralized storage servers (For VM, Web Content, etc) Running Redhat
Advanced Server 2.1 - 2GB Ram - 140GB Storage on Host - 2.04TB Raid Storage
- Multiple Gigabit Network Interfaces
4x SER servers Running RedHat AS 2.1 or RedHat 9 - Dual 3Ghz Xeon CPUs per
server - 2GB RAM - NFS to Storage Server via Deticated Gigabit Network -
Seperate Network card for Internet Connectivity - 18GB Raid Storage on Host
4x SEMS servers Running RedHat AS 2.1 or RedHat 9 - Dual 3Ghz Xeon CPUs per
server - 2GB RAM - NFS to Storage Server via Deticated Gigabit Network -
Seperate Network card for Internet Connectivity - 18GB Raid Storage on Host
6x WEB Servers
3x DNS Servers
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Janak
To: Darren Sessions
Cc: serusers(a)lists.iptel.org
Sent: 12/10/2003 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Serusers] Scalability Question
No, it depends on many factors like, architecture used, bandwitdth,
population size, scenario implemented and so on.
Jan.
On 09-12 12:35, Darren Sessions wrote:
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Is there a scalability guide anywhere I can use in
helping me decide
how
much hardware to buy for SER + SER/SEMS
application?
Thanks,
- Darren
_______________________________________________
Serusers mailing list
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http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
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