hi i just came by http://www.iptelorg.de/SOP.php, and it's quite clearly SER, but then, on the downloads site, it tells me "This site offers only commercial products and services . Please follow the links below if you wish to find support related to respective software". although their stuff looks good, can you really make GPLed code a "commercial product"? roy _______________________________________________ Serusers mailing list Serusers(a)iptel.org http://mail.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers