22 Dec
2004
22 Dec
'04
5:48 p.m.
Alex,
I'm thinking that the location table in ser would do the trick - as max_contacts in
the ser-0.9
registrar module seems to work well. The only problem with max_contacts is that it is a
server-wide setting.
If you think about it, we really don't care about anything other than who has a
contact AOR in the
ser proxy because you can't really use your phone unless it's registered and we
wouldn't let you
register if you have exceeded you allowed number of location table records.
Unless there is someone out there with a way to do this in ser-0.9 then I'll just have
to
"AVPOPS-ize" the max_contacts piece of the registrar module myself.
As for "who our client is" -- we are a carriers-carrier. So our client is just
another CLEC or
other company that is selling VoIP and using our platform for their own customers.
Regards,
Paul
--- Alex Rootham <alex(a)blueslice.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Remember that limiting the subscriber to one single SIP Registration at
a time will only prevent the user from using two SIP devices *at the
same time*. So all they would have to do is turn off their BT100 at
home, and the X-ten registration would then work properly.
I can't really think of an easy way to ensure that the subscriber cannot
use more then one device at all... what you're looking for is something
like a MAC-address (in IP-world) or a SIM-id (in the GSM-world) that
will uniquely identify the device-instance.
Alex Rootham
Blueslice Newtorks
PS - I still haven't figured out who your client is, but if they offer
VoIP, then they might be interested in becoming an MVNO. And if they
already use SIP, and they want to be an MVNO, then they should
definately be talking to Blueslice. I'm not sure if you're in a
position to propose any biz-dev ideas to your client, but if you are,
let me know and we can chat further...
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The reason is quite simple:
A business requirement for us is that a customer signs up for our service for say
US$29.99
This US$29.99 entitles them to use **one** SIP phone and only one SIP phone. They cannot
use
for
instance a Grandstream BT100 at home and X-ten at
work - that is without paying for an
additional
"seat".
So I'm looking to alter the subscriber table and add a "seats" column with 1
being the default
and
0 meaning unlimited (which is the current ser
default).
Regards,
Paul
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Why do you want this feature?
regards,
Daniel
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Hi all.
Does anyone know if I can use avpops to dynamically set the registrar module's
max_contacts
parameter?
Regards,
Paul
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22 Dec
5:52 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Re: register module max_contacts set via avpops
If you think about it, we really don't care about anything other than who has a
contact AOR in the
ser proxy because you can't really use your phone unless it's registered and we
wouldn't let you
register if you have exceeded you allowed number of location table records.
Why would you say this? One does not have to be registered in order to
generate INVITES. We have many users set up like this. Those that are
wholesale and only need outbound calling are setup like that in our system.
Andres.
6:22 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Re: register module max_contacts set via avpops
Sorry - My bad.
My assumption is that the mechanizm to determine the number of contacts for REGISTER
messages
would also be similar to the mechanism that determines INVITE eligiblity.
For example, if I get an INVITE I know who it's from. Now the question is does this
INVITE come
from someone who has a contact entry in the location table. If not - then reply with an
error
otherwise honor the INVITE.
The pseudo code would be something like this:
if (method=="REGISTER") {
if ([number of contacts] >= [max user seats for subscriber]) {
return error code;
break;
}
// normal REGISTER logic follows
}
// later in ser.cfg
if (method=="INVITE") {
if ([from contact not in location table]) {
return error code;
break;
}
// normal INVITE logic follows
}
So we are again back to dealing with just contact records for REGISTER and INVITEs. If
someone
registers their phone with 3600 seconds for the expiration and they have just one
"seat" and then
they decide to move their phone to a different network - then they'd be S.O.L. until
their
previous contact records expires.
Regards,
Paul
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If you think about it, we really don't care about anything other than who has a
contact AOR in
the
ser proxy because you can't really use your
phone unless it's registered and we wouldn't let
you
register if you have exceeded you allowed number
of location table records.
Why would you say this? One does not have to be registered in order to
generate INVITES. We have many users set up like this. Those that are
wholesale and only need outbound calling are setup like that in our system.
Andres.
6:38 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Re: register module max_contacts set via avpops
Hi,
On Thursday 23 December 2004 00:22, Java Rockx wrote:
So we are again back to dealing with just contact
records for REGISTER and
INVITEs. If someone registers their phone with 3600 seconds for the
expiration and they have just one "seat" and then they decide to move their
phone to a different network - then they'd be S.O.L. until their previous
contact records expires.
and when the routeable external IP of the NAT in front of the customer changes
(e.g. because of some routine IP disconnect of the provider) he will not be
reachable and can not make any calls until the old Contact expired?
BTW what are you doing with requests, to remove the existing binding (and
afterwards I'll register a new Contact from my current location)?
Just my 2 cents... but I'll for sure not become your customer :-)
Regards
Nils Ohlmeier
Regards,
Paul
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If you
think about it, we really don't care about anything other than
who has a contact AOR in
the
ser proxy because you can't really use your
phone unless it's registered
and we wouldn't let
you
register if you have exceeded you allowed number
of location table
records.
Why would you say this? One does not have to be registered in order to
generate INVITES. We have many users set up like this. Those that are
wholesale and only need outbound calling are setup like that in our
system.
Andres.
7:03 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Re: register module max_contacts set via avpops
I'm currently not doing anything. I'm just trying to find an answer to the
problem.
I'm beginning to think that the ser community has no solution for such a problem. I
know that
other VoIP providers, such as Volo Communications, have such control over their networks
and I'd
be disappointed to think that there is something commercial software solves that open
source
cannot.
Regards,
Paul
--- Nils Ohlmeier <nils(a)iptel.org> wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 23 December 2004 00:22, Java Rockx wrote:
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So we are again back to dealing with just contact
records for REGISTER and
INVITEs. If someone registers their phone with 3600 seconds for the
expiration and they have just one "seat" and then they decide to move their
phone to a different network - then they'd be S.O.L. until their previous
contact records expires.
and when the routeable external IP of the NAT in front of the customer changes
(e.g. because of some routine IP disconnect of the provider) he will not be
reachable and can not make any calls until the old Contact expired?
BTW what are you doing with requests, to remove the existing binding (and
afterwards I'll register a new Contact from my current location)?
Just my 2 cents... but I'll for sure not become your customer :-)
Regards
Nils Ohlmeier
Regards,
Paul
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If you
think about it, we really don't care about anything other than
who has a contact AOR in
the
ser proxy because you can't really use your
phone unless it's registered
and we wouldn't let
you
register if you have exceeded you allowed number
of location table
records.
Why would you say this? One does not have to be registered in order to
generate INVITES. We have many users set up like this. Those that are
wholesale and only need outbound calling are setup like that in our
system.
Andres. 
6:14 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Re: register module max_contacts set via avpops
Hi
why not forcing the re-registering to a low timing,
like 3 minutes? if would take much more than that
to move the phone to another network...
Cheers
!3runo
Java Rockx wrote:
I'm currently not doing anything. I'm just
trying to find an answer to the problem.
>and when the routeable external IP of the NAT in
front of the customer changes
>(e.g. because of some routine IP disconnect of the provider) he will not be
>reachable and can not make any calls until the old Contact expired?
7:51 p.m.
New subject: [Serusers] Re: register module max_contacts set via avpops
I'm sure it is possible with open source software. In (this) case you
(probably) have to add a little bit of code.
But IMO your asking for "features" which are restricting the users of your
service (compared to what the protocol and other providers offer). And as
open source developers typically love their freedom (thats one of the
advantages of OS) they usually do not volunteer to implement any kind of user
restrictions expect it is for security reasons.
Note: this is just my personal opinion.
Greetings
Nils
On Thursday 23 December 2004 01:03, Java Rockx wrote:
I'm currently not doing anything. I'm just
trying to find an answer to the
problem.
I'm beginning to think that the ser community has no solution for such a
problem. I know that other VoIP providers, such as Volo Communications,
have such control over their networks and I'd be disappointed to think that
there is something commercial software solves that open source cannot.
Regards,
Paul
--- Nils Ohlmeier <nils(a)iptel.org> wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday 23 December 2004 00:22, Java Rockx wrote:
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http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers So we are again back to dealing with just contact
records for REGISTER
and INVITEs. If someone registers their phone with 3600 seconds for the
expiration and they have just one "seat" and then they decide to move
their phone to a different network - then they'd be S.O.L. until their
previous contact records expires.
and when the routeable external IP of the NAT in front of the customer
changes (e.g. because of some routine IP disconnect of the provider) he
will not be reachable and can not make any calls until the old Contact
expired?
BTW what are you doing with requests, to remove the existing binding (and
afterwards I'll register a new Contact from my current location)?
Just my 2 cents... but I'll for sure not become your customer :-)
Regards
Nils Ohlmeier
> Regards,
> Paul
>
> --- Andres <andres(a)telesip.net> wrote:
> > >If you think about it, we really don't care about anything other
> > > than who has a contact AOR in
> >
> > the
> >
> > >ser proxy because you can't really use your phone unless it's
> > > registered and we wouldn't let
> >
> > you
> >
> > >register if you have exceeded you allowed number of location table
> > > records.
> >
> > Why would you say this? One does not have to be registered in order
> > to generate INVITES. We have many users set up like this. Those
> > that are wholesale and only need outbound calling are setup like that
> > in our system.
> >
> > Andres.
>
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