I apologize for the noise/rant of this post, but I feel something needs to be said.
"By now support will be made trough the USERS openser mailing list" Source: http://www.wesip.com/mediawiki/index.php/SupportMailingList
1) I don't object to you making a commercial product, but please do not direct your users to this list. 2) I'm no license expert and won't confirm this by downloading your software, but seems you are in violation of the GPL by linking into openser and not releasing your software under a compatible license. 3) "WeSIP is patent pending technology" Source: http://www.wesip.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page Where exactly is this technology pending patent? Do you have a reference number by some chance? 4) I'm going to be a bit of a jerk and say you probably don't have the capital to successfully litigate any international licensing violations of your software. So why was this license chosen exactly?
To point of this is to not waste more of everyone's time, but to encourage the company behind this seemingly fine product to GPL their source so others can contribute.
Thanks
C.
Hi !
I apologize for the noise/rant of this post, but I feel something needs to be said.
Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta ;-)
Actually, thank you for posting your questions in a so open manner. Hope my answers will clarify things.
"By now support will be made trough the USERS openser mailing list" Source: http://www.wesip.com/mediawiki/index.php/SupportMailingList
- I don't object to you making a commercial product, but please do
not direct your users to this list.
Obviously before doing so I agreed this point with the list maintainers. I think that is not bad for the community to see how others are developing applications on top of OpenSER using other technologies which are open standars (SIP Servlet, JSR116) even if they are not opensource or free for everyone. Please, let me remind that WeSIP is FREE for non-commercial projects so if you make a non- profit use of OpenSER you can make the very same use of WeSIP without worries.
- I'm no license expert and won't confirm this by downloading your
software, but seems you are in violation of the GPL by linking into openser and not releasing your software under a compatible license.
WeSIP DOES NOT link into OpenSER basically because WeSIP is JAVA. WeSIP connects VIA TCP to an OpenSER module named SEAS which DOES link into OpenSER and therefore is offered GPL just as any other OpenSER module. SEAS can be used to build a decoupled extension API to OpenSER as is explained with detail in http://www.openser.org/docs/ modules/1.2.x/seas.html
- "WeSIP is patent pending technology"
Source: http://www.wesip.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page Where exactly is this technology pending patent? Do you have a reference number by some chance?
Of course we have a reference number. It is the provisional patent application 20060762 beloging to VOZTELECOM SISTEMAS, S.L. which was presented on 07-11-2006. Provisional patent pendings are the quickest way to "Patent Pending" and are the ideal solution for small companies or independent inventors. Regarding PPA's I recommend the article at http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/catId/FD8C060B-5DD4-4809- A53ECCF6BBD87E32/objectId/75EE515D-3C27-4165-AA54D4EEDA1C1DD0/310/ ART/ which explains what's their meaning
- I'm going to be a bit of a jerk and say you probably don't have the
capital to successfully litigate any international licensing violations of your software. So why was this license chosen exactly?
Companies protect their intellectual property with patents and licenses sometimes. People follow the law most of the time. Apart from that, not too much to say :-)
To point of this is to not waste more of everyone's time, but to encourage the company behind this seemingly fine product to GPL their source so others can contribute.
We are considering such possibility but there is a lot of mid-long- term strategy and internal discussion involved. Those of you who ever developed technology in a startup know what I mean. There are cons and pros, of course, the biggest pro being the fact of giving people the ability to contribute the project. To be honest, nowadays, we are very far from having a clear direction on this issue but anyway I really appreciate your interest.
Hope I helped
Thanks
Gines
PS: Maybe an OpenSER Application Development list for people developing applications which integrate OpenSER in others environment using WeSIP, Perl, Fifo, or whatever could be worth. Comments are welcome
Thanks
C.
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