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RE: Avpops tutorial - documentation (G.Jacobsen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:58:42 +0300 From: Bogdan-Andrei Iancu <bogdan(a)voice-system.ro> Subject: Re: [Users] Mixing uri_db and auth_db To: Edgar Barbosa <edgar.barbosa(a)madetowork.com> Cc: Users(a)openser.org Message-ID: <448462C2.50502(a)voice-system.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Edgar, can you get a backtrace of the core? Can you reproduce this crash or it occurs randomly? regards, bogdan Edgar Barbosa wrote: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:03:30 +0100 From: "Edgar Barbosa" <edgar.barbosa(a)madetowork.com> Subject: RE: [Users] Mixing uri_db and auth_db To: "'Bogdan-Andrei Iancu'" <bogdan(a)voice-system.ro> Cc: Users(a)openser.org Message-ID: <20060605170324.823E4680085(a)gw.madetowork.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bogdan, It occurs everytime I restart openser... A backtrace... how can I get one? Regards, Edgar -----Original Message----- From: Bogdan-Andrei Iancu [mailto:bogdan@voice-system.ro] Sent: segunda-feira, 5 de Junho de 2006 17:59 To: Edgar Barbosa Cc: Users(a)openser.org Subject: Re: [Users] Mixing uri_db and auth_db Edgar, can you get a backtrace of the core? Can you reproduce this crash or it occurs randomly? regards, bogdan Edgar Barbosa wrote: Behalf ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:59:37 -0600 From: "Douglas Garstang" <dgarstang(a)oneeighty.com> Subject: RE: [Users] Mixing uri_db and auth_db To: "Edgar Barbosa" <edgar.barbosa(a)madetowork.com>om>, "Bogdan-Andrei Iancu" <bogdan(a)voice-system.ro> Cc: Users(a)openser.org Message-ID: <645FEC31A18FE54A8721500CDD55A7B6031B8DDA(a)mail.oneeighty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just upgraded from 1.0.1 to the current cvs version. Ran openser and got this: Jun 5 11:54:47 apollo openser: parse error (156,21-24): syntax error Jun 5 11:54:47 apollo openser: parse error (156,39-40): bad forwardargument Here's the relevant section of openser.cfg. Line 156 is the line with: forward(uri:host, uri:port); # # Outgoing PSTN Calls - Dispatch to Audiocodes # if ( src_ip == xxx.187.142.203 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.204 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.232 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.201 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.231 ) { sl_send_reply("100","Trying"); xlog ("L_INFO","Outbound PSTN call. Dispatching to Audiocodes"); ds_select_dst("2","0"); forward(uri:host, uri:port); return; } What's wrong with this? The example in the 1.1 documentation has the same use of the forward() command! Douglas. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:02:23 -0600 From: "Douglas Garstang" <dgarstang(a)oneeighty.com> Subject: RE: [Users] Avpops tutorial To: <greg(a)thursday.com> Cc: users(a)openser.org Message-ID: <645FEC31A18FE54A8721500CDD55A7B6031B8DDB(a)mail.oneeighty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The documentation is not very good. It's a wee bit difficult for others to write documentation when they can't figure the software out, because the developers never wrote any good ones. Eight months of openser and I'm still trying to work out how all this branch stuff works. Don't have a clue, and there's no books on this stuff either. If you ask in the list you get half answers and riddles. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:04:29 -0600 From: "Douglas Garstang" <dgarstang(a)oneeighty.com> Subject: [Users] Openser 1.1 and forward() To: "Edgar Barbosa" <edgar.barbosa(a)madetowork.com>om>, "Bogdan-Andrei Iancu" <bogdan(a)voice-system.ro> Cc: Users(a)openser.org Message-ID: <645FEC31A18FE54A8721500CDD55A7B6031B8DDC(a)mail.oneeighty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just upgraded from 1.0.1 to the current cvs version. Ran openser and got this: Jun 5 11:54:47 apollo openser: parse error (156,21-24): syntax error Jun 5 11:54:47 apollo openser: parse error (156,39-40): bad forwardargument Here's the relevant section of openser.cfg. Line 156 is the line with: forward(uri:host, uri:port); # # Outgoing PSTN Calls - Dispatch to Audiocodes # if ( src_ip == xxx.187.142.203 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.204 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.232 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.201 || src_ip == xxx.187.142.231 ) { sl_send_reply("100","Trying"); xlog ("L_INFO","Outbound PSTN call. Dispatching to Audiocodes"); ds_select_dst("2","0"); forward(uri:host, uri:port); return; } What's wrong with this? The example in the 1.1 documentation has the same use of the forward() command! Douglas. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:08:51 +0300 From: Juha Heinanen <jh(a)tutpro.com> Subject: RE: [Users] Avpops tutorial To: "Douglas Garstang" <dgarstang(a)oneeighty.com> Cc: users(a)openser.org Message-ID: <17540.29491.379923.715889(a)rautu.tutpro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Douglas Garstang writes: i don't like your attitude. if you don't consider quality of openser or its documentation good enough and are not willing to do anything about it, i suggest you look for some other open source product or go for commercial offerings. -- juha ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:20:48 -0600 From: "Douglas Garstang" <dgarstang(a)oneeighty.com> Subject: RE: [Users] Avpops tutorial To: "Juha Heinanen" <jh(a)tutpro.com> Cc: users(a)openser.org Message-ID: <645FEC31A18FE54A8721500CDD55A7B6031B8DDD(a)mail.oneeighty.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What source do you recommend I use in writing my documentation? If you could provide a source, I'd be happy to consider writing some. I did not question the quality of OpenSER. I questioned the quality of the documentation for OpenSER. Just because something is open source, does not immediately mean it has to have bad documentation. Doug. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:22:33 +0300 From: "G.Jacobsen" <g_jacobsen(a)yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [Users] RE: Avpops tutorial - documentation To: "Users@Openser. Org" <users(a)openser.org> Message-ID: <CPEBJFBCDCKKIHJAODHCEEJPCFAA.g_jacobsen(a)yahoo.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Douglas, Why not ? I looked the whole of last week through the source code and learnt a lot. If you have ever written a larger piece of software then you would know that for programmers every functionality is obvious - while for the users nothing is obvious. Writing good documentation is almost as time consuming as writing the software. I suppose that Bogdan and colleagues need also to make money rather than write extensive documentation. In any case, I think they are doing a great job supporting this project. Perhaps some simple things which wouldnt incurr an additional burden on the developers could help. 1. The whole documentation on openser could be in wiki format so users can add their wisdom to every function as they stumple across it. To start with one could duplicate the existing module documentation pages as wiki so that everyone can add his comments. And I would also make such new wiki pages the default entry point for the documentation rather than the existing module documentation itself. That way everyone would be reminded to add his wisdom. 2. ALL functions and keywords of all modules could also be accessable on ONE page (possibly by extending the cookbook) which then links to the wikis for the modules. I often find myself hunting through several module docs, websites and search engines to find insight into a function. Cheers Gerry -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)openser.org [mailto:users-bounces@openser.org]On Behalf Of Douglas Garstang Sent: Montag, 5. Juni 2006 21:02 To: greg(a)thursday.com Cc: users(a)openser.org Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Users] Avpops tutorial The documentation is not very good. It's a wee bit difficult for others to write documentation when they can't figure the software out, because the developers never wrote any good ones. Eight months of openser and I'm still trying to work out how all this branch stuff works. Don't have a clue, and there's no books on this stuff either. If you ask in the list you get half answers and riddles. > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Fausak [mailto:lgfausak@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:23 AM > To: Douglas Garstang > Cc: Juha Heinanen; users(a)openser.org > Subject: Re: [Users] Avpops tutorial > > > Douglas, > > The programmer did write documentation! That's what we > currently have. Often it is a good idea for a non-programmer > (ie. user) > to write the documentation from their point of view. > > Anyway, this is open software and the more people that help > develop it (and it's documentation) the better. If you don't write > it I'm sure somebody will someday :-) > > > -g > > > On 6/5/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang(a)oneeighty.com> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:jh@tutpro.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:01 AM > > > To: Douglas Garstang > > > Cc: Bogdan-Andrei Iancu; Sam Lee; users(a)openser.org > > > Subject: RE: [Users] Avpops tutorial > > > > > > > > > Douglas Garstang writes: > > > > > > > I'm not one of the developers. > > > > > > you don't need to be. in fact, it would give developers' > more time to > > > develop, i.e., write code. > > > > How can I write the documentation when I don't understand > how the software works? > > > > I'm of the opinion that developers should write > documentation. If other people try to do it, they make bad > assumptions based on what they THINK they know. They then > write bad or wrong documentation which others read, and in > turn also write bad documentation. It's not a good model. > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)openser.org > > http://openser.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > -- > Greg Fausak > greg(a)thursday.com > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)openser.org http://openser.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" - The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)openser.org http://openser.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users End of Users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 20 *************************************