Hi users
I noticed some strange thing yesterday when i made a SIP-SIP call everytthing was O.K , when I made SIP-Pstn local call its pretty good BUT When I made SIP-PSTN (international) I am Hearing my Voice back at Some stages , I tried for lot of calls but i dont understand where actually the problem is creating ,
Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem Thanks.
Regards, Ravi.
This is a complex problem to solve and requires a significant understanding of the Gateway you are using as this will be responsible for cancelling the echo you hear.
Neill....;o)
ravi reddy mravikreddy@gmail.com wrote: Hi users
I noticed some strange thing yesterday when i made a SIP-SIP call everytthing was O.K , when I made SIP-Pstn local call its pretty good BUT When I made SIP-PSTN (international) I am Hearing my Voice back at Some stages , I tried for lot of calls but i dont understand where actually the problem is creating ,
Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem Thanks.
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Thanks for your reply
Here both local calls and international calls are passing through same gateway but why iam hearing echo only for international calls
can you have any idea please suggest me
Thank You
Regards, Ravi
On 7/10/06, ravi reddy mravikreddy@gmail.com wrote:
Hi users
I noticed some strange thing yesterday when i made a SIP-SIP
call everytthing was O.K , when I made SIP-Pstn local call its pretty good BUT When I made SIP-PSTN (international) I am Hearing my Voice back at Some stages , I tried for lot of calls but i dont understand where actually the problem is creating ,
Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem
Thanks.
Regards, Ravi.
Just because you're sending both calls through the same gateway doesn't mean that your providers upstream gateways don't change depending on the destination. Your provider could have tens or hundreds of different vendors depending on where they terminate calls.
Check the ECAN (echo cancellation), VAD (variable audio detection), etc settings on your ATA or IP phone. Play with the gains (turing down the tx gain on the microphone can help). Try changing codecs. Buy a book on how PSTN audio works or speech codecs, do some google searches, there's LOTS of info out there.
-Evan
ravi reddy wrote:
Thanks for your reply
Here both local calls and international calls are passing
through same gateway but why iam hearing echo only for international calls
can you have any idea please suggest me Thank You
Regards, Ravi
On 7/10/06, ravi reddy mravikreddy@gmail.com wrote:
Hi users
I noticed some strange thing yesterday when i made a SIP-SIP
call everytthing was O.K , when I made SIP-Pstn local call its pretty good BUT When I made SIP-PSTN (international) I am Hearing my Voice back at Some stages , I tried for lot of calls but i dont understand where actually the problem is creating ,
Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem
Thanks.
Regards, Ravi.
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Ravi,
I would suggest the use of a good echo cancelling platform too. Look at your echo cancellers characteristics. The important things to look for are compliance to the G.168 standards and a good echo tail - 128ms is good or sometimes quoted in taps - 1024 taps is good.
International calls have a longer delay for the voice to echo back - this delay is what the taps/echo tail have to work with. Some cheaper echo cancellers have very short tails - 16ms, which may be sufficient to handle echo on national networks, not on international network connections. Cellular networks can also have longer delays.
For example Digium PRI hardware (there is a new card coming out soon that is better) has a short echo tail, where as Sangoma PRI cards have a long (128ms) tail. Quintum gateways also have echo cancellers with 128ms tails.
Choose your hardware for connectivity to the PSTN carefully - it can have dramatic effects on voice quality.
Neill....;o)
Evan Borgström evan.borgstrom@ca.mci.com wrote:
Just because you're sending both calls through the same gateway doesn't mean that your providers upstream gateways don't change depending on the destination. Your provider could have tens or hundreds of different vendors depending on where they terminate calls.
Check the ECAN (echo cancellation), VAD (variable audio detection), etc settings on your ATA or IP phone. Play with the gains (turing down the tx gain on the microphone can help). Try changing codecs. Buy a book on how PSTN audio works or speech codecs, do some google searches, there's LOTS of info out there.
-Evan
ravi reddy wrote:
Thanks for your reply
Here both local calls and international calls are passing through same gateway but why iam hearing echo only for international calls
can you have any idea please suggest me
Thank You
Regards, Ravi
On 7/10/06, ravi reddy wrote:
Hi users
I noticed some strange thing yesterday when i made a SIP-SIP call everytthing was O.K , when I made SIP-Pstn local call its pretty good BUT When I made SIP-PSTN (international) I am Hearing my Voice back at Some stages , I tried for lot of calls but i dont understand where actually the problem is creating ,
Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem Thanks.
Regards, Ravi.
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Also check out:
http://blog.voipsupply.com/2006/03/hardware_echo_cancellation_san.html
For an alternate explanation of what you may be experiencing.
Neill....;o)
NEILL WILKINSON neill.wilkinson@btinternet.com wrote: Ravi,
I would suggest the use of a good echo cancelling platform too. Look at your echo cancellers characteristics. The important things to look for are compliance to the G.168 standards and a good echo tail - 128ms is good or sometimes quoted in taps - 1024 taps is good.
International calls have a longer delay for the voice to echo back - this delay is what the taps/echo tail have to work with. Some cheaper echo cancellers have very short tails - 16ms, which may be sufficient to handle echo on national networks, not on international network connections. Cellular networks can also have longer delays.
For example Digium PRI hardware (there is a new card coming out soon that is better) has a short echo tail, where as Sangoma PRI cards have a long (128ms) tail. Quintum gateways also have echo cancellers with 128ms tails.
Choose your hardware for connectivity to the PSTN carefully - it can have dramatic effects on voice quality.
Neill....;o)
Evan Borgström evan.borgstrom@ca.mci.com wrote:
Just because you're sending both calls through the same gateway doesn't mean that your providers upstream gateways don't change depending on the destination. Your provider could have tens or hundreds of different vendors depending on where they terminate calls.
Check the ECAN (echo cancellation), VAD (variable audio detection), etc settings on your ATA or IP phone. Play with the gains (turing down the tx gain on the microphone can help). Try changing codecs. Buy a book on how PSTN audio works or speech codecs, do some google searches, there's LOTS of info out there.
-Evan
ravi reddy wrote:
Thanks for your reply
Here both local calls and international calls are passing through same gateway but why iam hearing echo only for international calls
can you have any idea please suggest me
Thank You
Regards, Ravi
On 7/10/06, ravi reddy wrote:
Hi users
I noticed some strange thing yesterday when i made a SIP-SIP call everytthing was O.K , when I made SIP-Pstn local call its pretty good BUT When I made SIP-PSTN (international) I am Hearing my Voice back at Some stages , I tried for lot of calls but i dont understand where actually the problem is creating ,
Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem Thanks.
Regards, Ravi.
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Ravi:
* Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem *
No problem. Our technicians are already sitting on their suitcases and are eager to eradicate the echo problem - if necessary they will rip out analog wires to every of your call destinations.
In order to speed up matters, please supply credit-card details. Amex-Black card would be fine with us.
Cheers :-)
Gerry
----- Original Message ----- From: ravi reddy To: serusers@lists.iptel.org Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: [Bulk] [Serusers] Echo Cancellation
Hi users
I noticed some strange thing yesterday when i made a SIP-SIP call everytthing was O.K , when I made SIP-Pstn local call its pretty good BUT When I made SIP-PSTN (international) I am Hearing my Voice back at Some stages , I tried for lot of calls but i dont understand where actually the problem is creating ,
Can any body please solve this "ECHO" problem Thanks.
Regards, Ravi.
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