26 Feb
2004
26 Feb
'04
5:31 p.m.
Hi!
The question a little bit off topic, but I'm sure you canhelp me :-)
Usually, I used Redhat, but as they stopped their free update service,
I'm looking for a new platform.
In older postings, most people recommend debian, that's why I want to
give it a try. The debian homepage tells me, that security updates will
only be available for the stable release, so I wanted to use stable. But
stable does not support mysql 4, which is required for serweb.
So, what are your common practices to overcome such problems (the trade
off between stable/old software and unstable/new software)?
Do you use Debian testing?
Do you use just the base packages on stable and compile mysql 4 yourself?
Do you use backports or do you mix stable/testing?
thanks,
Klaus
26 Feb
26 Feb
5:50 p.m.
On (26.02.04 16:31), Klaus Darilion wrote:
So, what are your common practices to overcome such
problems (the trade
off between stable/old software and unstable/new software)?
Do you use Debian testing?
Do you use just the base packages on stable and compile mysql 4 yourself?
Do you use backports or do you mix stable/testing?
I use testing/unstable mixed environment on my desktop machine (mainly
because the fancy features of recent KDE/Gnome versions). I prefer
stable on my server machines (for matter of stability and security
updates).
When i need a more recent version of a certain package for my system, i
try to build a "backport" by myself by downloading debian source
packages of the testing version onto my stable maching, and
dpkg-buildpackage(ing) it. If that doesn't work without changes, i try
to use backports from eg. www.apt-get.org. I try avoiding mixing
"native" stable/testing/unstable packages.
So, my recommendation would be to fetch mysql 4 source packages from
packages.debian.org, and try to build them. If that fails, try a
backport.
Another option (not the best one, though!) would be to use "alien",
which tries to convert rpm packages into deb packages. YMMV depending
on the package.
What i try to avoid at (nearly) any cost is "./configure; make; make
install" type of software installation. That clutters your machine with
myriads of files, invisible dependencies, and makes it quite hard to
upgrade to a new Debian release. Therefore, i love SER just for the fact
that Debian packaging files are included.
cheers
axelm
10:33 p.m.
Hi,
Klaus Darilion wrote:
The question a little bit off topic, but I'm sure
you canhelp me :-)
sure thing :)
In older postings, most people recommend debian,
that's why I want to
give it a try. The debian homepage tells me, that security updates will
only be available for the stable release, so I wanted to use stable. But
stable does not support mysql 4, which is required for serweb.
So, what are your common practices to overcome such problems (the trade
off between stable/old software and unstable/new software)?
Do you use Debian testing?
not for production systems. On server systems i install the stable
branch and on my development system i have "testing".
Do you use just the base packages on stable and
compile mysql 4 yourself?
Yes. Pretty easy. If the linux binary package from mysql.com would had
the .so libs you wouldnt even need to compile it from source. But as the
.so libs are missing you need to compile the source anyway.
Do you use backports or do you mix stable/testing?
I wouldnt recommend mixing. That may render your system unuseable if
Murphy is with you.
-- Arnd
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