28 Jan
2004
28 Jan
'04
1:46 p.m.
Hello,
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are
held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during
last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
I would like to encourage people who are using MS Outlook or similar
bullshit from microsoft to try a different mail client. Outlook is evil
and microsoft is doing nothing about that.
During the last couple of hours I received 400 reports that my emails or
emails from the mailing lists contain a virus or are undeliverable.
Please stop this madness and stop using outlook.
Jan.
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech yesterday in Prague
regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
28 Jan
28 Jan
2:08 p.m.
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 12:46, Jan Janak wrote:
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech
yesterday in Prague
regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
Even more astonishing is that the British government has honoured him
with a knighthood for his services! Obviously his business practises are
accepted there and the government couldn't care less about the fact that
he is under investigation by the EU.
--
Dave Cotton <dcotton(a)linuxautrement.com>
2:12 p.m.
Outlook is not as bad as many people says - the peolpe who are using
Outlook make mistakes (open attachments which contains viruses) For
example, Outlook blocks access to .exe/.pif/.scr attachments. If the
virus is zipped and the user extracts it and then starts it, then the
user is guilty, not Outlook.
Nevertheless I switched to Mozilla as mail client for mailing lists as
Outlook can not quote correct and doesn't support a thread view. I still
use Outlook for all other mails and never had any problems with viruses,
worms, ...
regards,
Klaus
Jan Janak wrote:
Hello,
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are
held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during
last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
I would like to encourage people who are using MS Outlook or similar
bullshit from microsoft to try a different mail client. Outlook is evil
and microsoft is doing nothing about that.
During the last couple of hours I received 400 reports that my emails or
emails from the mailing lists contain a virus or are undeliverable.
Please stop this madness and stop using outlook.
Jan.
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech yesterday in Prague
regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
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8:36 p.m.
Hi,
Jan Janak wrote:
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list
again (such mails are
held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during
last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
may i suggest that you just leave it blocked to non-subscribers?
This will help keeping spams and worms out of the list.
-- Arnd
29 Jan
29 Jan
3:06 p.m.
I will open the list again once the storm is over. The reason is that
many people subscribed to the list have more than one e-mail address and
if they post from address which is not subscribed, I have to confirm it
manually.
Jan.
On 28-01 19:36, Arnd Vehling wrote:
Hi,
Jan Janak wrote:
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list
again (such mails are
held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during
last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
may i suggest that you just leave it blocked to non-subscribers?
This will help keeping spams and worms out of the list.
-- Arnd 
28 Jan
28 Jan
10:26 p.m.
It's a good idea in general to prohibit outside posts. But this won't
stop the bogus worm-containing messages being sent out with fake "From:
" addresses which are addressed as coming from the list, you, or even
me. These worms gather email addresses from received emails, inboxes,
etc, etc, and use valid "From: " addresses to masquerade as anyone they
want.
This is a flaw in RFC822 which should be fixed, and also why I
automaticaly sign every message I send w/ a digital signature to provide
evidence of authenticity (except to mailing lists which mangle the
message, thereby invalidating the signature...sigh). How this flaw can
be fixed is another issue (no simple way I can think of offhand).
Worms like Novarg arn't really the fault of Outlook, since in this case
they require the user to actually run the virus as far as I know, in
some cases requiring the user to unbundle the virus program from a zip
file! The problem's cause here is what I call a UIE (User Ignorance
Error) :-). That, and the fact that many users still don't run AV
software :-|.
- Jim
Jan Janak wrote:
Hello,
I prohibited posting from non-members to the list again (such mails are
held for review) due to large number of bogus messages received during
last couple of hours. It will be enabled again later.
I would like to encourage people who are using MS Outlook or similar
bullshit from microsoft to try a different mail client. Outlook is evil
and microsoft is doing nothing about that.
During the last couple of hours I received 400 reports that my emails or
emails from the mailing lists contain a virus or are undeliverable.
Please stop this madness and stop using outlook.
Jan.
PS: It's curious that Bill Gates gave a speech yesterday in Prague
regarding network security and how seriously are they taking it...
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29 Jan
29 Jan
7:35 p.m.
Jim Burwell wrote:
It's a good idea in general to prohibit outside
posts. But this won't
stop the bogus worm-containing messages being sent out with fake "From:
" addresses which are addressed as coming from the list, you, or even
me. These worms gather email addresses from received emails, inboxes,
etc, etc, and use valid "From: " addresses to masquerade as anyone they
want.
True, but some worms use the e-mail address list of the victim and use
those addresses as "from-address". Therefore keeping unsubscribed users
out of the list would still help keeping the "trash" level of the list
low.
-- Arnd
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