Hi Evgeny,
SER does accounting - generates CDR records, but it doesn't do billing. For this you need a billing application. To avoid loosing BYEs, you have to take care from your script by using record_routing.
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Evgeny Ivanov wrote:
While I was reading the documentation I understood that SER is accountig calls only on begining and end ot transaction - on INVITE and BYE. So how the billing is done ? What if SER does not receives a BYE signal ?
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:37:25 +0200, Marian Dumitru marian.dumitru@voice-sistem.ro wrote:
Hi Pavel,
SER is used only when the call is establish and terminated. During the actual call, there is no usage of SER server, so basically you can have as many user talking in parallel as you want.
Anyhow, for 100 user, you don't have to worry :-)
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Pavel Siderov wrote:
Hi, Somebody can tell me what will be the cpu and memory usage and what machine will I need if want for example 100 users talking at the same time using the ser server? Thanks in advance, Pavel Siderov
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record-routing is necessary, but, BYEs will always be lost. You need a 'plan B' for BYEs! If you control the gateways you can use the termination messages from the gateways to augment your information. If you use external VoIP gateways for termination this can be tricky...as you probably don't get live accounting feedback. Putting a b2bua between you and the external voip gateways will give you control of the call, at the expense of rtp travelling through you.
-g
On Oct 11, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Marian Dumitru wrote:
Hi Evgeny,
SER does accounting - generates CDR records, but it doesn't do billing. For this you need a billing application. To avoid loosing BYEs, you have to take care from your script by using record_routing.
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Evgeny Ivanov wrote:
While I was reading the documentation I understood that SER is accountig calls only on begining and end ot transaction - on INVITE and BYE. So how the billing is done ? What if SER does not receives a BYE signal ? On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:37:25 +0200, Marian Dumitru marian.dumitru@voice-sistem.ro wrote:
Hi Pavel,
SER is used only when the call is establish and terminated. During the actual call, there is no usage of SER server, so basically you can have as many user talking in parallel as you want.
Anyhow, for 100 user, you don't have to worry :-)
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Pavel Siderov wrote:
Hi, Somebody can tell me what will be the cpu and memory usage and what machine will I need if want for example 100 users talking at the same time using the ser server? Thanks in advance, Pavel Siderov
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Hi Greg,
indeed, a B2BUA is the best way to keep trace of a call. To avoid forcing all RTP traffic trough your server (which many people find "expensive"), you can use a pseudo-B2BUA which interfere only with the signaling part, letting the RTP to go end-to-end.
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Greg Fausak wrote:
record-routing is necessary, but, BYEs will always be lost. You need a 'plan B' for BYEs! If you control the gateways you can use the termination messages from the gateways to augment your information. If you use external VoIP gateways for termination this can be tricky...as you probably don't get live accounting feedback. Putting a b2bua between you and the external voip gateways will give you control of the call, at the expense of rtp travelling through you.
-g
On Oct 11, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Marian Dumitru wrote:
Hi Evgeny,
SER does accounting - generates CDR records, but it doesn't do billing. For this you need a billing application. To avoid loosing BYEs, you have to take care from your script by using record_routing.
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Evgeny Ivanov wrote:
While I was reading the documentation I understood that SER is accountig calls only on begining and end ot transaction - on INVITE and BYE. So how the billing is done ? What if SER does not receives a BYE signal ? On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:37:25 +0200, Marian Dumitru marian.dumitru@voice-sistem.ro wrote:
Hi Pavel,
SER is used only when the call is establish and terminated. During the actual call, there is no usage of SER server, so basically you can have as many user talking in parallel as you want.
Anyhow, for 100 user, you don't have to worry :-)
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Pavel Siderov wrote:
Hi, Somebody can tell me what will be the cpu and memory usage and what machine will I need if want for example 100 users talking at the same time using the ser server? Thanks in advance, Pavel Siderov
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Where do you get one of these b2buas? -g
On Oct 11, 2004, at 12:17 PM, Marian Dumitru wrote:
Hi Greg,
indeed, a B2BUA is the best way to keep trace of a call. To avoid forcing all RTP traffic trough your server (which many people find "expensive"), you can use a pseudo-B2BUA which interfere only with the signaling part, letting the RTP to go end-to-end.
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Greg Fausak wrote:
record-routing is necessary, but, BYEs will always be lost. You need a 'plan B' for BYEs! If you control the gateways you can use the termination messages from the gateways to augment your information. If you use external VoIP gateways for termination this can be tricky...as you probably don't get live accounting feedback. Putting a b2bua between you and the external voip gateways will give you control of the call, at the expense of rtp travelling through you. -g On Oct 11, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Marian Dumitru wrote:
Hi Evgeny,
SER does accounting - generates CDR records, but it doesn't do billing. For this you need a billing application. To avoid loosing BYEs, you have to take care from your script by using record_routing.
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Evgeny Ivanov wrote:
While I was reading the documentation I understood that SER is accountig calls only on begining and end ot transaction - on INVITE and BYE. So how the billing is done ? What if SER does not receives a BYE signal ? On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:37:25 +0200, Marian Dumitru marian.dumitru@voice-sistem.ro wrote:
Hi Pavel,
SER is used only when the call is establish and terminated. During the actual call, there is no usage of SER server, so basically you can have as many user talking in parallel as you want.
Anyhow, for 100 user, you don't have to worry :-)
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Pavel Siderov wrote:
Hi, Somebody can tell me what will be the cpu and memory usage and what machine will I need if want for example 100 users talking at the same time using the ser server? Thanks in advance, Pavel Siderov
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Greg Fausak www.AddaBrand.com (US) 469-546-1265
Another (less intrusive than a B2BUA) option would be accounting even failed BYE transactions. In that case you would loose a BYE only if both parties fail -- which is IMHO highly improbable.
Jan.
On 11-10 12:08, Greg Fausak wrote:
record-routing is necessary, but, BYEs will always be lost. You need a 'plan B' for BYEs! If you control the gateways you can use the termination messages from the gateways to augment your information. If you use external VoIP gateways for termination this can be tricky...as you probably don't get live accounting feedback. Putting a b2bua between you and the external voip gateways will give you control of the call, at the expense of rtp travelling through you.
-g
On Oct 11, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Marian Dumitru wrote:
Hi Evgeny,
SER does accounting - generates CDR records, but it doesn't do billing. For this you need a billing application. To avoid loosing BYEs, you have to take care from your script by using record_routing.
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Evgeny Ivanov wrote:
While I was reading the documentation I understood that SER is accountig calls only on begining and end ot transaction - on INVITE and BYE. So how the billing is done ? What if SER does not receives a BYE signal ? On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:37:25 +0200, Marian Dumitru marian.dumitru@voice-sistem.ro wrote:
Hi Pavel,
SER is used only when the call is establish and terminated. During the actual call, there is no usage of SER server, so basically you can have as many user talking in parallel as you want.
Anyhow, for 100 user, you don't have to worry :-)
Best regards, Marian Dumitru
Pavel Siderov wrote:
Hi, Somebody can tell me what will be the cpu and memory usage and what machine will I need if want for example 100 users talking at the same time using the ser server? Thanks in advance, Pavel Siderov
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
-- Voice Sistem http://www.voice-sistem.ro
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
-- Voice Sistem http://www.voice-sistem.ro
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
Greg Fausak www.AddaBrand.com (US) 469-546-1265
Serusers mailing list serusers@lists.iptel.org http://lists.iptel.org/mailman/listinfo/serusers
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