5 Nov
2010
5 Nov
'10
10:10 a.m.
Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
I need this to handle multidomain situation.
The multidomain what is built in is not satisfactory, because the UA-s
what are from varying vendors.
And some has strange or a very limited SIP implementation.
Some can only register ip address, some can use RFC3263, but some can
use only DNS A record. :(
Any answer, suggestion appreciated very well!
Thanks,
Misi
10:18 a.m.
You can also serve multiple domain with a single instance. -jiri
On 11/5/10 9:15 AM, Jon Bonilla (Manwe) wrote:
El Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:15 +0100
MÉSZÁROS Mihály<misi(a)alma.ki.niif.hu> escribió:
Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
No problem at all.
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10:18 a.m.
Am 05.11.2010 09:10, schrieb MÉSZÁROS Mihály:
Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
No. Just start kamailio several times and provide a different config
file for each:
kamilio -f /etc/kamailio/kamailio-foobar.cfg
kamilio -f /etc/kamailio/kamailio-loadbalancer.cfg
kamilio -f /etc/kamailio/kamailio-example.cfg
In the cfg you have to make sure that each kamailio listens on a
different socket. If you use remote management interfaces (FIFO, RPC)
then you also have to specify different FIFOs and RPC sockets.
regards
Klaus
I need this to handle multidomain situation.
The multidomain what is built in is not satisfactory, because the UA-s
what are from varying vendors.
And some has strange or a very limited SIP implementation.
Some can only register ip address, some can use RFC3263, but some can
use only DNS A record. :(
Any answer, suggestion appreciated very well!
Thanks,
Misi
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10:31 a.m.
On 11/05/2010 04:10 AM, MÉSZÁROS Mihály wrote:
Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
I need this to handle multidomain situation.
The multidomain what is built in is not satisfactory, because the UA-s
what are from varying vendors.
And some has strange or a very limited SIP implementation.
Some can only register ip address, some can use RFC3263, but some can
use only DNS A record. :(
Any answer, suggestion appreciated very well!
I still don't see why handling multiple domains in a single instance
would be a problem.
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7:19 p.m.
2010-11-05 09:31 keltezéssel, Alex Balashov írta:
On 11/05/2010 04:10 AM, MÉSZÁROS Mihály wrote:
I will try to explain where i saw the problem.
Of course it can be that i am wrong, so AFAIK ..
If there is domain atlanta.test with with such a DNS.
$TTL 60
$ORIGIN atlanta.test.
@ IN SOA a1.atlanta.test. root.a1.atlanta.test. (
2009071301 ; Serial
604800 ; Refresh
86400 ; Retry
2419200 ; Expire
604800 ) ; Negative Cache TTL
;
@ IN NS a1
@ IN NS a2
a1 IN A 192.168.0.1
a2 IN A 192.168.0.2
;; order pref flags service
regexp replacement
@ IN NAPTR 10 10 "s" "SIPS+D2T"
"" _sips._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 20 10 "s" "SIP+D2T"
"" _sip._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 30 10 "s" "SIP+D2U"
"" _sip._udp
;; Priority Weight Port Target
_sips._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5061 a1
_sips._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5061 a2
_sip._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
_sip._udp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._udp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
* UA type1
It is implementing RFC3263 correctly. (Very rare such a good
implementation.)
so it will send a register
REGISTER atlanta.test
To:alice@atalnta.test
o Correctly this client will use the proxy preference and in
best case use tcp + tls.
* UA2
It is implementing only dns A record support.
so it will send a register
REGISTER a1.atlanta.test
To: alice(a)a1.atlanta.test
* UA3
It is a strange UA resolves everything to ip address.
so it will send the register
REGISTER 192.168.0.1
To: alice(a)192.168.0.1
* UA4
Maybe there are more case, and can be continued. But till now i
faced only to the above three cases.
Where i saw the problem with kamailio multidomain setup (AFAIK):
I want to use the three as one "sip routing domain" or i don't know how
to name it correctly.
When it saves the AoR <=> Contact bindings to location database (mysql),
the registrar will create and save the contacts to three separated
domain according to the above three UA behavior:
* atlanta.test
* a1.atlanta.test
* 192.168.0.1
So i must add three times the user in subscriber table for the three
domain, to allow the user alice to authenticate from any UA.
And i will have three domain in location database for only one "sip
routing domain".
So if i want to have a second domain, called biloxi.test with similar
setup, on the same host where atlanta.test is,
then i get bigger mess. And i have six domain...
I hope you see where i have a problem.
And AFAIK i can't set to registrar function save() the domain, if i use
database backend.
Highly appreciated if You can suggest a solution for this.
It will be nice if you, or anyone can suggest some solution to this problem.
Many Thanks!
Cheers,
Misi
Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
I need this to handle multidomain situation.
The multidomain what is built in is not satisfactory, because the UA-s
what are from varying vendors.
And some has strange or a very limited SIP implementation.
Some can only register ip address, some can use RFC3263, but some can
use only DNS A record. :(
Any answer, suggestion appreciated very well!
I still don't see why handling multiple domains in a single instance
would be a problem.
9 Nov
9 Nov
8:04 a.m.
Hi,
I don't get any reply til yet, after i detailed the problem.
Was my problem description not clear enough, or you agree with me.
I need a confirmation that i am not wrong and this problem can't be
solved with the current multidomain implementation.
Alex, Jiri please state if you agree or disagree with me.
And if i am wrong, then please point out where i am wrong.
Many Thanks!
Misi
2010-11-05 18:19 keltezéssel, MÉSZÁROS Mihály írta:
2010-11-05 09:31 keltezéssel, Alex Balashov írta:
On 11/05/2010 04:10 AM, MÉSZÁROS Mihály wrote:
I will try to explain where i saw the problem.
Of course it can be that i am wrong, so AFAIK ..
If there is domain atlanta.test with with such a DNS.
$TTL 60
$ORIGIN atlanta.test.
@ IN SOA a1.atlanta.test. root.a1.atlanta.test. (
2009071301 ; Serial
604800 ; Refresh
86400 ; Retry
2419200 ; Expire
604800 ) ; Negative Cache TTL
;
@ IN NS a1
@ IN NS a2
a1 IN A 192.168.0.1
a2 IN A 192.168.0.2
;; order pref flags service
regexp replacement
@ IN NAPTR 10 10 "s" "SIPS+D2T"
"" _sips._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 20 10 "s" "SIP+D2T"
"" _sip._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 30 10 "s" "SIP+D2U"
"" _sip._udp
;; Priority Weight Port Target
_sips._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5061 a1
_sips._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5061 a2
_sip._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
_sip._udp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._udp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
* UA type1
It is implementing RFC3263 correctly. (Very rare such a good
implementation.)
so it will send a register
REGISTER atlanta.test
To:alice@atalnta.test
o Correctly this client will use the proxy preference and in
best case use tcp + tls.
* UA2
It is implementing only dns A record support.
so it will send a register
REGISTER a1.atlanta.test
To: alice(a)a1.atlanta.test
* UA3
It is a strange UA resolves everything to ip address.
so it will send the register
REGISTER 192.168.0.1
To: alice(a)192.168.0.1
* UA4
Maybe there are more case, and can be continued. But till now i
faced only to the above three cases.
Where i saw the problem with kamailio multidomain setup (AFAIK):
I want to use the three as one "sip routing domain" or i don't know
how to name it correctly.
When it saves the AoR <=> Contact bindings to location database
(mysql), the registrar will create and save the contacts to three
separated domain according to the above three UA behavior:
* atlanta.test
* a1.atlanta.test
* 192.168.0.1
So i must add three times the user in subscriber table for the three
domain, to allow the user alice to authenticate from any UA.
And i will have three domain in location database for only one "sip
routing domain".
So if i want to have a second domain, called biloxi.test with similar
setup, on the same host where atlanta.test is,
then i get bigger mess. And i have six domain...
I hope you see where i have a problem.
And AFAIK i can't set to registrar function save() the domain, if i
use database backend.
Highly appreciated if You can suggest a solution for this.
It will be nice if you, or anyone can suggest some solution to this
problem.
Many Thanks!
Cheers,
Misi
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Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
I need this to handle multidomain situation.
The multidomain what is built in is not satisfactory, because the UA-s
what are from varying vendors.
And some has strange or a very limited SIP implementation.
Some can only register ip address, some can use RFC3263, but some can
use only DNS A record. :(
Any answer, suggestion appreciated very well!
I still don't see why handling multiple domains in a single instance
would be a problem.
11:03 a.m.
Am 05.11.2010 18:19, schrieb MÉSZÁROS Mihály:
2010-11-05 09:31 keltezéssel, Alex Balashov írta:
Fine.
On 11/05/2010 04:10 AM, MÉSZÁROS Mihály wrote:
I will try to explain where i saw the problem.
Of course it can be that i am wrong, so AFAIK ..
If there is domain atlanta.test with with such a DNS.
$TTL 60
$ORIGIN atlanta.test.
@ IN SOA a1.atlanta.test. root.a1.atlanta.test. (
2009071301 ; Serial
604800 ; Refresh
86400 ; Retry
2419200 ; Expire
604800 ) ; Negative Cache TTL
;
@ IN NS a1
@ IN NS a2
a1 IN A 192.168.0.1
a2 IN A 192.168.0.2
;; order pref flags service
regexp replacement
@ IN NAPTR 10 10 "s" "SIPS+D2T"
"" _sips._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 20 10 "s" "SIP+D2T"
"" _sip._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 30 10 "s" "SIP+D2U"
"" _sip._udp
;; Priority Weight Port Target
_sips._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5061 a1
_sips._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5061 a2
_sip._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
_sip._udp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._udp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
* UA type1
It is implementing RFC3263 correctly. (Very rare such a good
implementation.)
so it will send a register
REGISTER atlanta.test
To:alice@atalnta.test
o Correctly this client will use the proxy preference and in
best case use tcp + tls. Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
I need this to handle multidomain situation.
The multidomain what is built in is not satisfactory, because the UA-s
what are from varying vendors.
And some has strange or a very limited SIP implementation.
Some can only register ip address, some can use RFC3263, but some can
use only DNS A record. :(
Any answer, suggestion appreciated very well!
I still don't see why handling multiple domains in a single instance
would be a problem.
* UA2
It is implementing only dns A record support.
so it will send a register
REGISTER a1.atlanta.test
To: alice(a)a1.atlanta.test
It depends. Most of the clients, regardless if they support SRV/NAPTR or
not, allow you to configure an outboundproxy. This means you will tell
the client that the domain is "atlanta.test" and configure as
outboundproxy "a1.atlanta.test". So, all the SIP URIs still use
"atlanta.test" in domain-part.
* UA3
It is a strange UA resolves everything to ip address.
so it will send the register
REGISTER 192.168.0.1
To: alice(a)192.168.0.1
Do such clients really exists? Send them back to the vendor.
* UA4
Maybe there are more case, and can be continued. But till now i
faced only to the above three cases.
Where i saw the problem with kamailio multidomain setup (AFAIK):
I want to use the three as one "sip routing domain" or i don't know how
to name it correctly.
When it saves the AoR <=> Contact bindings to location database (mysql),
the registrar will create and save the contacts to three separated
domain according to the above three UA behavior:
* atlanta.test
* a1.atlanta.test
* 192.168.0.1
So i must add three times the user in subscriber table for the three
domain, to allow the user alice to authenticate from any UA.
And i will have three domain in location database for only one "sip
routing domain".
If you need to host only one "sip routing domain" which uses different
hostparts, then it would simplest by just not enabling multidomain mode:
modparam("alias_db|auth_db|usrloc|uri_db", "use_domain", 0)
So if i want to have a second domain, called
biloxi.test with similar
setup, on the same host where atlanta.test is,
then i get bigger mess. And i have six domain...
I hope you see where i have a problem.
And AFAIK i can't set to registrar function save() the domain, if i use
database backend.
I guess it also depends on how the userpart is constructed and how
strong the separation between the atlanta and biloxi has to be. E.g. if
the userpart of atlanta and biloxy does not overlap, (e.g. random
generated usernames or E164 phone numbers) then you still can leave
multidomain support disabled.
If you need separation of atlanta and biloxy and you really need to
support SIP clients which only use IP addresses then of course you are
forced to use different sockets (different ports or IP addresses). Once
you use different sockets you can also separate Kamailio instances, one
for biloxy and one for atlanta. Those Kamailio instances will then be
operated with use_domain=0 and thus the host-part will be ignored.
Highly appreciated if You can suggest a solution for
this.
It will be nice if you, or anyone can suggest some solution to this problem.
Get rid of stupid/broken clients - if possible.
PS: Above is mainly for Kamailio. Provisioning in Kamailio is SIP-URI
centric - this means a user has one SIP URI (and thus is in one domain).
ser/sip-router modules use a different provisioning model which is
user-id centric. In this schema a user is mapped to an ID. This ID may
be mapped to various SIP URIs which may reside in different domains. So
the ser database model may help you with provisioning - anyway you would
have to assign 3 SIP URIs to a user's account.
regards
Klaus
10 Nov
10 Nov
5:48 p.m.
On 11/09/2010 10:03 AM, Klaus Darilion wrote:
Am 05.11.2010 18:19, schrieb MÉSZÁROS Mihály:
I slightly remember that SER also supports domain aliases, not only user
aliases, i.e. each domain is identified by an ID similar to the user ID,
and you can have multiple domains having the same ID. Hence, you would
need to provision each user only once + the domain three times.
This still does not solve the IP problem though, if the UAC does not put
any domain name into the message. You can let sip-router listen on
multiple ports (or multiple IPs), check the packet destination in the
script, and assign the domain name within the script.
Regards,
Miklos
2010-11-05 09:31 keltezéssel, Alex Balashov
írta:
Fine.
On 11/05/2010 04:10 AM, MÉSZÁROS Mihály wrote:
I will try to explain where i saw the problem.
Of course it can be that i am wrong, so AFAIK ..
If there is domain atlanta.test with with such a DNS.
$TTL 60
$ORIGIN atlanta.test.
@ IN SOA a1.atlanta.test. root.a1.atlanta.test. (
2009071301 ; Serial
604800 ; Refresh
86400 ; Retry
2419200 ; Expire
604800 ) ; Negative Cache TTL
;
@ IN NS a1
@ IN NS a2
a1 IN A 192.168.0.1
a2 IN A 192.168.0.2
;; order pref flags service
regexp replacement
@ IN NAPTR 10 10 "s" "SIPS+D2T"
"" _sips._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 20 10 "s" "SIP+D2T"
"" _sip._tcp
@ IN NAPTR 30 10 "s" "SIP+D2U"
"" _sip._udp
;; Priority Weight Port Target
_sips._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5061 a1
_sips._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5061 a2
_sip._tcp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._tcp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
_sip._udp IN SRV 10 0 5060 a1
_sip._udp IN SRV 20 0 5060 a2
* UA type1
It is implementing RFC3263 correctly. (Very rare such a good
implementation.)
so it will send a register
REGISTER atlanta.test
To:alice@atalnta.test
o Correctly this client will use the proxy preference and in
best case use tcp + tls. Hello all!
Is there any known problem to run multiple kamailio/sip-router instance
in one host.
I need this to handle multidomain situation.
The multidomain what is built in is not satisfactory, because the UA-s
what are from varying vendors.
And some has strange or a very limited SIP implementation.
Some can only register ip address, some can use RFC3263, but some can
use only DNS A record. :(
Any answer, suggestion appreciated very well!
I still don't see why handling multiple domains in a single instance
would be a problem.
* UA2
It is implementing only dns A record support.
so it will send a register
REGISTER a1.atlanta.test
To: alice(a)a1.atlanta.test
It depends. Most of the clients, regardless if they support SRV/NAPTR or
not, allow you to configure an outboundproxy. This means you will tell
the client that the domain is "atlanta.test" and configure as
outboundproxy "a1.atlanta.test". So, all the SIP URIs still use
"atlanta.test" in domain-part.
* UA3
It is a strange UA resolves everything to ip address.
so it will send the register
REGISTER 192.168.0.1
To: alice(a)192.168.0.1
Do such clients really exists? Send them back to the vendor.
* UA4
Maybe there are more case, and can be continued. But till now i
faced only to the above three cases.
Where i saw the problem with kamailio multidomain setup (AFAIK):
I want to use the three as one "sip routing domain" or i don't know how
to name it correctly.
When it saves the AoR <=> Contact bindings to location database (mysql),
the registrar will create and save the contacts to three separated
domain according to the above three UA behavior:
* atlanta.test
* a1.atlanta.test
* 192.168.0.1
So i must add three times the user in subscriber table for the three
domain, to allow the user alice to authenticate from any UA.
And i will have three domain in location database for only one "sip
routing domain".
If you need to host only one "sip routing domain" which uses different
hostparts, then it would simplest by just not enabling multidomain mode:
modparam("alias_db|auth_db|usrloc|uri_db", "use_domain", 0)
So if i want to have a second domain, called
biloxi.test with similar
setup, on the same host where atlanta.test is,
then i get bigger mess. And i have six domain...
I hope you see where i have a problem.
And AFAIK i can't set to registrar function save() the domain, if i use
database backend.
I guess it also depends on how the userpart is constructed and how
strong the separation between the atlanta and biloxi has to be. E.g. if
the userpart of atlanta and biloxy does not overlap, (e.g. random
generated usernames or E164 phone numbers) then you still can leave
multidomain support disabled.
If you need separation of atlanta and biloxy and you really need to
support SIP clients which only use IP addresses then of course you are
forced to use different sockets (different ports or IP addresses). Once
you use different sockets you can also separate Kamailio instances, one
for biloxy and one for atlanta. Those Kamailio instances will then be
operated with use_domain=0 and thus the host-part will be ignored.
Highly appreciated if You can suggest a solution
for this.
It will be nice if you, or anyone can suggest some solution to this
problem.
Get rid of stupid/broken clients - if possible.
PS: Above is mainly for Kamailio. Provisioning in Kamailio is SIP-URI
centric - this means a user has one SIP URI (and thus is in one domain).
ser/sip-router modules use a different provisioning model which is
user-id centric. In this schema a user is mapped to an ID. This ID may
be mapped to various SIP URIs which may reside in different domains. So
the ser database model may help you with provisioning - anyway you would
have to assign 3 SIP URIs to a user's account.
regards
Klaus
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